Proposed SIMTA Moorebank Intermodal and appointment of Nick Greiner as Chair of Infrastructure NSW
During the recent NSW Election campaign we had the Liberal Party promising to halt or pause the Moorebank Intermodal proposal by SIMTA if it won office which they subsequently did win in March of this year. In light of this the appointment of Former Premier of NSW Nick Greiner as Chairperson of Infrastructure NSW by the O'Farrell Government is somewhat curious. Up until about 7 months ago Mr Greiner was Deputy Chairman of Stocklands, one of several companies comprising the SIMTA consortium involved in one of the proposed Moorebank Intermodal Freight Terminals.Doesn't this then send a clear message that the O'Farrell Government intends to proceed and give the green light to the SIMTA portion of the whole Moorebank freight hub regardless of the results of any studies that are done. It seems likely that there would be a perceived conflict of interest if Mr Greiner was to advise the relevant State Minister's with the proceeding of the building of the SIMTA proposal, considering his past links to the company Stocklands which is one of the proponents of the project.
Lets hope that this project gets the full scrutiny it deserves as it would in my opinion not get past the post.


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Judyth 87 posts
Does Nick Greiner own shares in Stockland? It would be worth looking into this as well.
Ray Van posts
He'll probably get everyone in Liverpool to pay a toll to pay for the private consortium 's infrastructure. We're still paying for the M5 which could've been owned and paid for by now if his government hadn't involved the private consortium. Then again he did need another chairmanship of sort after his political "career"
Nansi posts
OMG, clearly now the SIMTA Project MUST be scrapped from the State Government part 3A and the power must go to the Liverpool Council to decide, this is serious issue.
brian b posts
Nick Greiner cannot possibly make any rulings or recommendations in regards to the Simta project in an impartial manner, given his past associatio with Stocklands. If he does rubber stamp this project, the Liverpool community should demand that the matter is referred to the ICAC.
Jim McGoldrick posts
Was it Nick who was asked by ICAC to stand down as premier for looking after his corporate mates? Was it Nick who was also on the board of Qub whose subsidery Qube is a big player in the Moorebank Intermodal? Was it Nick who represented the Coal industry who bid for a share of QR ? Was Nick on the board of the tobacco industry who donated funds to the Liberal Party. As the O'Farrel Mr Fixit of NSW infrastructure, will Nick be looking after the little people who voted in the Liberal Government or will he be looking after his big business mates who he always supports? ICAC should be investigating this unholy relationship NOW. To many mates to many ways to corruption, This is just as bad as keeping the Labor Cancer. SHAME....SHAME......SHAME.........All of NSW is not stupid. http://www.nointermodal.com
ILoveMyKIDS posts
How can Barry O'Farrel do this given the obvious conflict of interest in Nick Greiner overseeing the Simta Intermodal when he was the Deputy Chairman of Stocklands until recently!
ILoveMyKIDS posts
ICAC would have a field day with Greiner given that in 1992 the ICAC ruled against Greiner and found that the job offer had made to his "Mate" Terry Metherell had been an act of corruption!
WattleGroveWarrier posts
What a Disgrace! I thought that Barry O'Farrell was a lot more HONORABLE than this!
Dominico posts
I don't understand how Mr O'Farrell could do this.
john anderson posts
The promise from the premier to halt the intermodals pending community consultation was worthless as we all ,know the consultation has been non existant any problems have been ignored and their only concern has been be tick off the bob and say they they have talked to us.With a majority of seats in the south west now mainly liberal you would think the voters would have receved better consideration to our valid claims especially the diesel emmisssions that will pose a massive threat to residents health.We will not stand idle and let our residents die for corporate profit John Anderson wattle grove.0409368603
john anderson posts
In the latest NRMA journal it states that traffic will increase by 20% in the next decade which will mean that any expansion of the m5 will only cater for the increase in traffic also it is well known that any any expansion of highways only attract more traffic.The community is entitled to an answer about the diesel emmissions that threaten the health of our kids and residents it is about time for the truth to come to the fore J.Anderson wattle grove.0409368603
Jane Demond posts
How on earth is Nick Greiner going to be impartial on this project when he's been the Deputy Chairman of Stocklands. How will Nick Greiner look at the good of the community - he will be looking out for his buddies at SIMTA. This is scandelous! What on Earth are you doing Barry O'Farrell?
Pierre posts
what to do next? they are all lying and we should look at who's beneficiating from this project. Mr O'Farrell I voted Liberal all my life and didn't think I would change, but if this project goes ahead, you are losing my vote. why don't we ask Mr Greiner to move into this area, or his kids or grand kids, wonder what he would do? We must stand united and we may need to have a different or new approach to this project, I don't think that the council will help us. why didn't they tell us long time ago that this would happen? all bunch of liars as far as I am concerned. so disappointed, as when we bought our land in this area, nothing was mentionned, actually we were told that Anzac Road would be closed, and we believed them.
Intermodal posts
So, how all else do you you all plan to deal with the extra container volumes over next 10 years? roadways around port botany are already overly congested, so it has to move to rail and in that case we need more intermodal capacity in our state. So please tell us exactly where there is another logical place in NSW to construct an intermodal site that is appropriately placed near road & rail?
Singleto posts
The roads in Moorebank/Wattle Grove areas are already congested! It takes so long to go back and forth to Liverpool at peak hours although it is a short distance. There is also traffic jam everyday in the morning and in the afternoon from Moorebank/Wattle Grove/Holsworthy to Nuwara/New Bridge and going to the West. With the proposed Intermodal at Moorebank, our roads can't handle that, we can already imagine how worse the traffic will be. This creates more pressure for us to be at work on time, more pressure for us to keep our jobs! Moorebank Intermodal is not a solution for Port Botany. Don't just look for a quick and short sighted fix! There are more places further down south near both road and rail and not near residential areas. Mr. O'Farrel, please keep your promises: don't let our kids suffer from noise and polution, don't let us stuck in traffic, don't let us loose our jobs because of the congested roads! We "hold you accountable", as said, that's why we vote for you!
Dominico posts
Dear Intermodal, other places have ALREADY been identifid! e.g. Badgerys Creek which the Commonwealth already owns. Moorebank could be sold to assist with costs of creating rail links. What price do you put on your KIDS lives?
Dominico posts
Current proposal at Moorebank is within 2000m of 10 Schools, 19 ChildCare Centres and over 39K Voters/Kids. Widely known statistics from around the World state that Freight Intermodal Pollutants KILL Kids and DESTROY Lives.
Intermodal posts
Dear Dominico, Badgerys creek does not make any commercial sense in comparison to Moorebank. Increased infrastructure is a natural process that will occur to deal with increased population and increased trade in this country.
Dominico posts
Dear Intermodal, as an Intelligent person, do you live and have your Kids living close to this proposed Diesel Exhaust Polluting Freight Zone? If your not prepared to Destroy your OWN CHILDREN'S LIVES then you have nothing to say
Singleto posts
Dear Intermodal, we understand the need of having additional infrastructure but Moorebank Intermodal is NOT A HUMAN SOLUTION! This is so close to residential area. You're poisoning our kids, our neigbourhood and put us in a dead zone! You can't just put thousands of lives at risk for a quick fix. Please look for another solution!
Supe posts
DEAR POLLIES = we have kids - please do not expose us or them to this crazy idea. SURELY, you have a sense of decency and care to protect those you represent? MOVE this thing away from us please!!! Put it somewhere where there is minimal impact on the people. What if you discovered a rare frog there? Would the project stop then? Show us we mean more to you than some rare green frog that needs saving!!! We are the people - and we decided to live here - without this in our back door - PLEASE protect us!!!
Trevor V posts
Dear Intermodal and Pollies. My family and I moved into Wattle Grove ten years ago because we thought it would be a great place to raise a family. We love it here. Now you want to add all this additional noise. light spill, pollution and traffic congestion because it makes good business sense. Sorry mate, the community and I refuse to compensate you and the government for poor infrastructure planning though lower house prices, lower quality of living and poor health outcomes (studies in the US have shown a clear link to early death in areas that contain large intermodals within the US). Give us a break!
Ray Van posts
The concept of intermodals less the 40 Km apart in the Sydney basin is economically unviable, the costs will far outweigh any perceived benefits. (Social and economical) All major ports can be serviced by an underground network of fast efficient electric rail (Sydney Freight Circle). Badgerys Creek being almost the 40 Km from Port Botany and having 80% of its delivery containers destined for the west of Sydney makes far better sense then Moorebank. Only 20% of the containers destined for Moorebank are required in the South West (which can be serviced by Minto), leaving the 80% to be transported by road to the rest of Sydney, not very smart or economical, and hardly sustainably sensible. All this because previous governments and their advisors stuffed up, no foresight, imagination or political will. The Moorebank option is white elephant waiting to happen, 2 billion dollars just to move the army out and relocate and then the cost of building the infrastructure of the intermodals and upgraded road network as well. Sheer planning lunacy and utter incompetence!
john anderson posts
Supe when I went to the SIMTA office they mentioned frogs and since I have discovered a range of animals that frequent the area.50 Koalas have been sighted that have been spotted since 2005.The Holsworthy army area has quolls snakes and kangaroos that will be endangered .Also ccopers paddock at Warwick farm contain rare species of birds and other rare animals and species.The level of diesel emmissions that would occur would not only have a disasterous consequences on the residents but it would destroy the local environment.We cannot pay this price for the sake of corporate profits.Intermodals should be placed outside congested residential areas and if it is to cost more than so be it.We will not sacrifice our kids our families and environment companies have a corporate social responsibility John Anderson wattle grove.0409368603
Supe posts
Agree with you John - it just seems surreal and bizarre that they would even be considering this so close to our communities. It has really disappointed me that the governments and pollies are indifferent to it. Surely they know what impact this will have. Mind you, I know Craig Kelly, who is the federal member, is fighting it from his end. Thanks for the heads up on the natural flora fauna - didn't realise that!! YES, we must not sacrifice our kids and families. FIGHT ON!!
john anderson posts
There is a rticle in the SMH today where the Nsw Auditor general is critical about the regulatry scheme for the movement of dangerous goods and it noted that in 2009/2010 there was only 303 inspections of dangerous goods containers when the volume of containers containing dangerous goods were 50,000 containers.Also in a recent daily telegraph article it reported only 3.6% of containers were searched for drugs.These too aspects pose a great threat for the residents of Liverpool council and are another reason to pose an uinnecessary risk for residents.We hear constantly of accidents on the M5 and itwould be greatly increased if container trucks were forced on our already gridlocked highways and roads.When is a bit of commonsense going to enter into this debate.The residents of Liverpool council deserve more consideration John Anderson wattle grove.0409368603
adley01 posts
We already have too much traffic on the roads - everyone knows that mornings / afternoons the roads are congested all the way in and about of the W'Grove . . . we have to put up with enough air pollution noise from the army with their blackhawk helicopters, firing range and bomb practices as well as the overhead flights from Bankstown airport - give us a break!
John P posts
Why is it that governments & big business have been given a license to maim & kill people, who gave them the approval to make people sick & destroy lives. When did i give permission for children to grow up in a cancerous environment. I note that none of the real drivers of this evil & dangerous development live anywhere near the affected & poisoned areas. They won't because it is too dangerous for them. The people who are behind this deadly development simply don't care about residents they simply want the profits while the residents can suffer the consequences. Also the tax payer will be subsidising the profits of the developers there is projected to be a dramatic increase in the number of medicare claims & hospitalisations. There is projected to be a dramatic increase in the level of road deaths, trauma & suffering. All this & more is brought to us by inept politicians & greedy selfish & uncaring big business.
Brett posts
This is a bloody joke! I can't believe all us residents are being treated with such utter contempt by the government! I'm just as upset that our fellow residents are either too lazy to voice their opinions and attend meetings, or are just blasé about the whole proposal... If this intermodal gets up, Wattle Grove will be ruined.
DaraB posts
Wow I didnt know that.. talk about ignorance here I was thinking that Nick Greiner is a decent man. Yes it is a conflict of interest. Still hoping he is a decent man. Liberals need to prove that they werent tainted when they were opposition and are not as corrupt as the former government. Thanks for the education Peter
John P posts
Just a thought for everyone: Write to State as well as the Federal Ministers for Transport & ask if they have done any "modelling" on the number of accidents, deaths, severe & minor injuries that can be anticipated due to the Intermodal being located in Moorebank. They can do this & estimate how many of our fellows residents will die. Also write to the Misters State & Federal & ask them if they have prepared modelling on the increases to ill health that will occur. Finally start getting anything that you think will be useful to sue for damages ready.
Angela63 posts
The residents of Wattle Grove are devastated to learn that the Australian Government is corrupt. I would have expected it of other countries in poor areas, in third world countries but certainly never from what I thought was a decent and fair Government. I sincerely hope that you don't proceed with this madness and that you take responsibility for the health of YOUR PEOPLE! Wattle Grove will be ruined, our lives will be ruined and those of all the young and innocent children. NO TO INTERMODAL.....
Jack23 posts
Mr O'Farrell, we trust in you and have faith in your decision making. I know that you will place the well being of your people before profit. Wattle Grove is a beautiful place to bring our children. It is a thriving community, with many young families struggling to offer their children the best possible environment and life opportunities. The Intermodal proposition will risk the health of all residents, congest further our roads. I invite you to visit Wattle Grove and speak to residents for you to have a better understanding before taking any decisions. Would you do this in your backyard?
quamby posts
In short ! Whatever government allows this to happen in my backyard, will not have my vote - ever again !
LH posts
The Moorebank area does not have the road infrastructure to cope with this ridiculous proposal. Will the government listen to the pepole of the Liverpool area and put a stop to this planned monstrosity. Will Mr O'Farrell become another dishonourable politician and back down on his election pledge to halt the project?
Jane Demond posts
Dear 'Intermodal', I bet you don't live in the Liverpool area! If you did you wouldn't be sprouting all this bull! It is known that an intermodal less than 40km from the port is financially unviable and it is also dangerous to have one close to a residential area. Easy - put it somewhere else further away and also away from residential area! No brainer!
AGE posts
What a bloody joke,I might as well, go back to my teenage years,hit the pub and clubs, smoke a joint,and get a screw,thats what all this feels like getting screwed up the back door hard and fast,I WONT MY VOTE BACK O,FARREL.
Michael J posts
The people of Wattle Grove, Moorebank, Hammondville and Liverpool DO NOT WANT the Intermodal at all. This is so that the environment and safety of the residents of these suburbs is NOT jeopardised in any way. Mr O'Farrell, do the RIGHT thing for those people who put their trust in you.
john anderson posts
In a article on the Liverpool leader it states that a number of the infrastructure projects are being done to facilitate the Moorebank Intermodal Freight Hub which is going to go for a number of years.Anyone who knows the implications for the residents in Liverpool council and the effect on other areas just shake their head in disbelief as we know that what they propose will have grave consequences for residents in respect to their health in relation to the diesel emmissions for 3 million trucks annually and the ancient locomotives up to 50 years old.The people behind theses projects should not be able to orchestra this as it is like sacrifing residents in the name of corporate profit as we know that 80% of the goods are to be sent to other areas of the Sydney Metropilitan area which would probably come to Moorebank as LCL containers to be sent to other areas by numerous diesel trucks which will probably mean it is hard to quantify the number of diesel trucks needed.Residents of the area including Kids should be entitled to better protection.We must stop this potential carnage John Anderson wattle grove 0409368603
john anderson posts
In the budget on the 9th May 2011 it mentions about giving people a fair go.How is it giving the residents a fair go in Liverpool by threatening their lifes and lifestyle by pushing through the biggest Freight Hub in Australia by exposing them to huge volume of diesel emmisions by truck or train.Many of the containers which they proppose to send will have a number of consignments meaning it will have up to 10 to 15 trucks for each container.If this is a fair go then the people of the area have huge problems.The 5th highest area of expansion is entitled to better consideration by all and sundry John Anderson wattle grove.0409368603
john anderson posts
The Moorebank Intermodals were talked about as far back as 1995 and here we are 16 years on they are starting the planning discussions one would think that if it was viable it would have been further advanced.THIS INDICATES THE LEVEL OF PROBLEMS WHICH THEY DID NOT FORSEE.dISCUSSIONS WITH staff doing the consultant have confirmed they are ignorant about a number of problems in implementation.The area has been devoid of the necessary infrastructure for many years and the M5 gridlock is one of main roads that have never had the proper infrastructure devoted to them also Australia is many years behind the research done in the USA and europe concerning the deadly nature of the diesel emmissions they are trying to ignore the overriding evidence.The environment in the area will be severely damaged and the Georges River would be at great risk along with our fauna and plants and species.They are trying to force the freight hub through at any cost not caring about the residents who will think they are living in a third world country area John Anderson wattle grove.0409368603
lou68 posts
I have been a liberal voter my entire voting life - firstly I would like to thank Craig Kelly for his tireless efforts in helping us fight this monstrousity he has shown that he cares about the the constituants in his electorate which is a lot more than many other pollies out there. I was really hoping that Mr O'Farrell was a fair dinkum honest bloke and would look at the real impact that this intermodal will place on the residents in our area. The appointment of Mr Greiner causes me some great concern and particularly his connections to SIMTA etc . This needs to be followed closely to ensure full transparency is maintained! Intermodal - noone disagrees that a solution needs to be found to the port botany problems but putting this in the middle of a residential area is NOT the appropriate solution. We are talking 3500 truck movements a day with diesal and freight train pollution 24/7 only 250m from peoples homes. This is NOT acceptable! Would you be happy for this in your backyard? We are not a pack of whingers who just don't want change - this sort of infrastructure should not be so close to anyones homes. It should benefit our city and not cause harm to its residents!
James B posts
Can someone tell me how Nick Greiner's newly appointment role in Infrastructure NSW is going to differ from what Brad Hazzard (Minister for Planning and Infrastructure) should be doing? As far I can see the government are wiping their hands clean of any responsibilities by having Greiner determine which developers get their projects approved first. We all need to write to Mr Greiner (mail@nickgreiner.com.au), Mr Hazzard (brad.hazzard@parliament.nsw.gov.au) and Mr O'Farrell (office@premier.nsw.gov.au)and let them know that the people of South West Sydney are well aware of Mr Greiner's affiliations with Stocklands and that it would be a massive conflict of interest if he was to be seen having any involvement with the SIMTA project. Mr O'Farrell said in his election campaign that he wants the people of NSW to make his govenment accountable. Well, that's exactly what he's going to get!
James B posts
Did anyone else have a laugh at Intermodal's comments that "increased infrastructure is a natural process?!". Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm sure intermodals don't just grow out of the ground with a bit of water and sunshine. I think this was this person's attempt at saying that infrastructure just happens whether we like it or not. Nice try, Intermodal!
Nansi posts
Excellent idea James B, I have just sent TWO emails one to brad.hazzard@parliament.nsw.gov.au & one to office@premier.nsw.gov.au also I have copied in our State MP melanie.gibbons@nsw.liberal.org.au, after all she did say she will fight with us to scrap this project. This is not a Liverpool, Wattle Grove problem this will be affecting all the WEST , the Roads will be valid as Parking area not to transfer us, the Diesel fumes will be around us 24/7
Micky Dee posts
Well thank you Mr Barry O'Farrell for appointing Mr Greiner as chairman to infastructure NSW! It certainly sends the WRONG message to the residents of South West Sydney. How can one expect Mr Greiner to remain impartial to this project given his previous association with Stocklands? Take note ICAC, a leopard cannot change its spots and those whom forget the past are condemed to repeat it.
Roy Carter posts
Intermodal puts the Government and others view very well. Where else has rail and road infrastructure alongside?..... Well of course the Freight Line that is under construction across the river has been planned to connect up with the Freight Zone in Moorebank with the addition of a spur line and bridge. So in fact the insertion is underway, though stalled at present due to engineering difficulties and budget overrun. The SSFL must be completed for the scheme to proceed in its present planned form. The cost of Rail and Road Connections to Badgeries Creek is a Drawback ( it is too far from the motorway and rail is far away too). There are plentiful available sites though along the M4 and M7 Motorways, however any would require a Freight Only Rail Line to be successful and that costs money. Destroying Liverpool is a cheaper option though goods will have to be trucked further generally and the poor resistance expected from the Multi Cultural City is the trump card........ Well done all so far for getting the temperature up on this paramount issue........ Infrastructure is desperately needed......the right choice is important...... Mr Greiner needs to look carefully how to distribute goods from a central location on the M7 Motorway Loop not a Biased South Western Loading that entrenches virtually forever additional distances on cartage by Trucks. Maybe they will listen to him if he points out the obvious to them.
Peter Wattle Grove posts
This is a very emotive issue for those of us who will be affected by the Intermodal. Residents of Wattle Grove, Moorebank, Hammondville and Holsworthy are in the firing line. Ask anyone any distance outside these areas and they do not care. I was discussing the proposed Intermodal with a friend who lives at Ryde. He thought it was a good idea in view of the accessability to the M5 and the M7 and the proposed Southern Freight link and the fact that trucks are moved away from Port Botany forshore. I had the same discussion with another friend who lives at Milperra. He was not too concerned. I pointed out that the roads like Henry Lawson Drive,Governor Macquarie Drive, Heathcote Road, Nuwarra Road and Newbridge Road would become a nightmare like Foreshore Road Port Botany. I said that trucks will go to any lengths to avoid the tolls on the M5 and M7 and so they will use these local roads. He shrugged his shoulders. Another acquaitance from Ingleburn said how he was going to be able to drive along Cambridge Avenue straight into Wattle Grove as that road was going to be diverted from Moorebank Avenue so all of the traffic from Macquarie Fields and Ingleburn could avoid the Intermodal. He seemed quite pleased with himself. Are the people at Chipping Norton concerned? I went to the meeting held at the Senior Citizens at the end of April and I was a little disappointed by the numbers. Maybe 15-20 people and I recognised a few Wattle Grove residents among that number. I think that as a community we are on our own. So we need to stick together and raise the numbers that will have a voice. The fact is that if we lived anywhere else we would probably have the same opinion as the Ryde person. 'Not in my backyard' makes us sound like a bunch of whingers. Don't get me wrong - I am dead set against this proposal because it will ruin a very amenable and pleasant place to live. I put my whole life savings into building here in 1994. I love Wattle Grove and my friends here. What has to be done to stop this going ahead is to present a strong and united voice to those who will listen. By strong I suggest that each street in Wattle Grove and the surrounding suburbs be represented by a volunteer resident who will have the responsibility of informing his/her neighbours of the proposal and our action plan. This will surely increase our numbers. It will be only through sheer weight of numbers that this proposal will be defeated. Potesters that blockaded the bulldozers during the Franklin Dam protests put their life on the line and thats what we need to do or least put some time aside to rally our neighbours to the call. As mentioned there needs to be an action plan. If it is decided to send letters, so be it, or a march on Parliament house. But it needs to be a concerted and whole hearted effort by everyone. As far as the Honourable Nick Greiner and his appoinment is concerned I believe that if he is truly honourable he will stand aside after declaring his association with Stockland.
John P posts
Any & everyone that contacts any official related to the Intermodal project, no mater who they are should keep a record. If this ever gets off the ground there is a real potential for litigation & the more information that was presented to the developers of this evil site the greater the chances of not only success but also significant payouts.
John P posts
Just a thought but has any demanded that the developers determine liability for any of the residents concerns if & when they occur.
John P posts
Another thought, albeit a bit unpleasant. If the Intermodal goes ahead the relatives of anyone that dies from respiratory failure should demand that the Coroner investigate the matter as potential "wrongful death". The Coroner can investigate many matters & can even loot at "groups" of deaths as well as increases in injuries due to road accidents.
James B posts
I understand the government will be making a statement today of which of the current projects accepted under Part 3A will be handed back to local council. Fingers crossed the SIMTA project will be on that list!
Roy Carter posts
Legal action can only happen on each individual segment of the overall scheme ( there are many ) if and when the approval is officially granted....for each one.....apparently our lives can be disrupted, our property values imperilled etc by speculation and "investigations" and we cannot get anywhere legally whilst all of that is happening.>>> Even if it is a "done deal" and " the Government is committed to the project". Legal action would be extremely convoluted, complex and horrendously expensive I daresay.
John P posts
The various government departments can estimate the consequences, mental health issues due to noise, wrongful deaths due to respiratory failure as well as the the road deaths & injuries. We need to demand that they release the figures as well as what actions they will take to increase the vital services such as hospital beds that the SMITA Intermodal will create.
Roy Carter posts
The Entire Freight Zone with the Australian Engineers Site the Larger potential emitter is capable of all affectation so the SIMTA site as well presents a formidable problem, along with Rail Entries, Moorebank Ave Widening and Bypass, M5 Widening, Moorebank Ave Ramp and or Tunnels Projects, Amiens Site and the West Wattle Grove Cleared Lands and current Bushlands which forms apparently part of the overall scheme as well. The future usage of Anzac Rd for entry via Heathcote Rd Ramps to M5 is another contentious issue. Consultation? Who controls so many facets?
Nansi posts
James B, I have read the article on the Daily Telegraph today and unfortunately the SIMTA project is NOT one of the Projects that will be handed back to the council. It will be up to the Planning minister Brad Hazzard (Minister for Planning and Infrastructure) & offcourse Nick Greiner as Chair of Infrastructure NSW, they will decide if the Project will go through under part 3A that Mr O’Farrell has scrapped it; however he did not scrap it for the SIMTA project, ask yourself WHY NOT?????
Roy Carter posts
The Government is committed to the Project? Which Government.......ALL Governments...... Play the issue not the personality heading the thing at any juncture......... the people in charge and in politics take turns at being the villain. So it does not matter what the current figurehead represents. National News Coverage telling the true situation in Moorebank Areas and projected effects on the wider community and Identification of Viable Alternative Locations are the only defence's that will work in my opinion. Find a legal way to achieve that.
DaraB posts
Peter from WG personally I can not relate to anyone who doesnt fight for their backyard. This new age term of Nimbys, vilifying a person who fights for ones back yard? That is bizarre to me and I would be certain it would be bizzare to any of our forefathers whether from Europe Australia pre generations. Thats why wars come about. People fight for their backyard just like the Aussies did against the Japanese. As you said you put sweat into every brick laid into that house of yours. Did anyone help you with mortgage? You did it all your own. Not to protect that? They made a movie out of it. The Castle. People who arent Nimby are the weirdos.. or are Oprah Winfreys with far too much money that they just dont care. No one is saying dont have an intermodal. They are just saying not in mid suburbia down the road from the Sydney CBD in an existing pollution basin along the river. You dont see Europe putting an intermodal on a river so close to a city yet WE put people out in woop woop without infrastructure instead of fixing the site like Homebush. Just dont get it. No-one is stopping progress, we are just saying there are better alternatives like on our outskirts well away from people feeding into cities as the States have figured out now.
DaraB posts
Apologies for the grammar I just get p...d off. As one person said to me who fort for another cause and won. Long live the Nimbys and I am thinking too right. My goodness we would have a world of bullies/oppressors if it weren't for the Nimbys. And Mr Albanese is being a complete bully. A person who defends their backyard will also defend ones country. Those that dont need to see a psychiatrist.
C. Saxby posts
Yet another sickening layer of mistrust in this monstrous mess. The conflict of interest is obvious.
Glen Butterfield posts
This is definitely not a good look and I agree that Mr Greiner's recent past involvement with Stocklands makes it hard for him to be seen to be acting impartially if he has to make decisions over the Intermodal project. It would be interesting to find out whether his new role puts him in a position to directly influence outcomes in this matter. I don't know exactly what his role involves as Chair of Infrastructure NSW. More generally, do people appointed to influential roles by governments have to declare financial or other interests up front? I'd hope so, because it would certainly be tempting as a company shareholder or board member to use one's position to favour one's own interests over another's, such as a community action group.
Glen Butterfield posts
Ok well here is Mr Greiner's job description (or part of it): “As Chairman of Infrastructure NSW, Mr Greiner will be responsible for identifying and prioritising the infrastructure projects that will help grow the NSW economy and improve the lives of people living in this state. “Mr Greiner will play a key role in advising the Government on project procurement, contractual arrangements, best practice, delivery and funding modes.” That's taken from the NSW Department of Transport website.
Jane Demond posts
Seriously, this is just so corrupt it needs to be stopped NOW!
Glen Butterfield posts
If you have a look at nickgreiner.com.au you will see that he is the Chairman of a number of organisations. One of these is the company Bradken. If you look at the Bradken website, it shows the company as having a rail division. In the rail division overview, it states: "Bradken specialises in the design, manufacture and supply of freight rollingstock, with a focus on the iron ore, coal, bulk and intermodal market sectors." Hmm, there's that INTERMODAL word again. But I'm sure he will be independent and unbiased about building intermodals at places like Moorebank. After all, they would need more freight rollingstock if more intermodals are to be built. And Bradken can deliver these. And he is only the company Chairman. Oh dear!
Allan C posts
Absolutely outrageous, first we had the consultants appointed to carry out the consultation with the residents and the community who turned out to be supporters of the Intermodal Terminals, and now we have Nick Greiner who is linked with the private consortium (Stockland/Simta) appointed as the chairperson of Infrastructure NSW. There is no hope in hell that will get an impartial view from Nick Greiner who is well known for his jobs for the boy’s and looking after his corporate mates. As was the case with the consultants, Nick Greiners appointment is clearly a conflict of interest. I thought we just got rid of the dud state government, I certainly hope I’m proven wrong. What on hell are you doing Mr O’Farrell; it doesn’t look like you are fulfilling your promise.
Wattle Grove Mum of 3 posts
More traffic, diesel fumes, more trucks on the M5 & M7, 24/7 noise, lowering of house prices, illness etc, etc......do the politicians care?? Of course not they don't live here. When there isn't an election around the corner will they listen to us? Doubt it. But because Wattle Grove (and surrounding suburbs) are lovely places to live and raise our families we need to fight for our rights. Years ago we had to fight to stop Holsworthy being choosen as Sydney's 2nd airport site....... here we go again more fighting to keep our suburb as it is. BACK OFF!!!
John P posts
Does anyone have contacts in the United Nations (UN). Our Federal Government has committed us to many conventions alkl of which are "binding". Is this Intermodal or any aspect of it in breach of any of the UN conventions?
Dominico posts
John P - there is a long list of the United Nations (and the W.H.O) email addresses on the web. I have tried some of these 1 before - definitely worth more attempts
John P posts
Dominico, thanks I will give them a try.
taxpayer posts
I think Barry O'Farrell is a traitor and a Greenie in disguise. He wants no developments therefore no jobs. I do not believe any neighbour has the right to criticise anyone who wishes to develop or improve their home. Jealousy is behind a lot of reasons. Councils are corrupt and Barry is already in their pockets. How much is he getting paid to stop Bangaroo. No Hillsong at Rosebery which is an area it is needed. No Islamic Schools I guess either. Worry about Hospitals and patients that are neglected in Nursing Homes and never tried to be saved. The wonderful Wayside Chapel was stopped adding extra storeys and Pastor Long is a million times better and more honest than Barry could ever hope to be. He feeds and clothes the homeless and gets out amongst them.
ILoveMyKIDS posts
We want Freight Intermodals in the right areas - not 300meters from neighbours ! Diesel Pollution day and night is TOXIC as any Intelligent person who has read the statistics from around the world knows
Allan C posts
Now we start to see the true colours coming out. It’s interesting to note that both Barry O & Melanie G don’t see a problem with Mr Greiners appointment as chairman of Infrastructure NSW. The facts are very clear and if Mr Greiner is or was employed as what ever with Stocklands, Bradken or Qube Logistics and then employed by the NSW Government in a role that involves him making recommendations on infrastructure matters such as the freight terminals, there is a conflict of interest. Stockland own the land on which the first freight terminal is proposed to be built and Qube are involved with the proposed operator of the completed terminal. When I consider the above I cannot accept that his point of view will be in anyway unbiased.
John P posts
Hello Everyone, Well here is something that should terrify everyone. Correspondence from Greg Smith's Office, the Attorney General for NSW indicates that that wrongful deaths that may be attributed to the SIMTA toxic plants are to be investigated by Brad Hazzard's Dept of Infrastructure & Planning. Wrongful deaths are normally investigated by the Police or the Coroner. I have never heard of a situation where a person that may be complicit in an activity is to be the judge of the legality of their actions. It is the same as making Jack the Ripper the judge at his own trial. We started with fears of cronyism with our new government & now we have the justice system being rearranged to suit those that would bring death & destruction to our lives & environment.
DaraB posts
You put people close to Sydney CBD not containers. You dont put poor people out in woop woop Oran park with no infrastructure. This Moorebank terminal is servicing the North West why isnt there a big intermodal located there. Because its the North West. All we are saying is put it on the outskirts and feta it in. Like progressive countries are doing. Like the states are NOW doing. There is the SouthWest Sydney Rail Link being built and a huge industrial estate well away from people. Extend the ARTC line to go with the SOuth West Link. Already they are proposing the railyard out there. WHy not the intermodal also instead of placing it on a river. You place realestate on a river just like Homebush. Not containers. That river has been cleaned up. And is used by the local sailing and ski club what a waste if we once again pollute it. Intermodals should not be mid suburbia. This is mid suburbia. I would ask anyone if they would be happy surrounding an intermodal. They should be located in huge industrial estates. Me personally I would be happy to swap with the Greendale people and have the cremortorium there. Its the living you worry about. Not the dead.
Very concerned posts
Shame Shame Shame on the Government for even considering putting a freight terminal in a residential area, the health risks to our children are phenomenal, just look at the reports that come out of the US about people living close to freight terminals. DO NOT PUT THIS KILLER TERMINAL IN OUR SUBURB.
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taxpayer posts
Thank God Nick is in charge of the job it will get done. I love people who want nothing done and often wonder if most of them live off the taxpayer and neverto go to work. Freight terminal will bring plenty of work and freight brings in our the goods you want. Biggest problem in this country is the Dole. All I would like is Nick to give the go ahead for a huge Hillsong Chuch and also Islamic Schools and Mosques. Love to see all those that object to cars no doubt drive all the time. Kenneally wanted no cars on WYD and drove everywhere. They want not gas cut off the gas and see thing winge again.
John Phee posts
Dominico, I can tell you how much a child's life is worth to Nick & SIMTA. Not much if anything. Same for adults & teens. If they die their is no real payout, if they are injured well the taxpayer picks up the bill. So death & destruction on our roads is not a problem for Nick & SIMTA. They won't live here & won't pay the bills.
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