F.R.E.E. Community Centre

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by freecommunity
07/09/2010

Friends of Refugees of Eastern Europe (FREE) is a world wide community welfare organization that meets the needs of refugees, predominantly from the former Soviet Union. FREE in Sydney has existed for 25 years and has around 12,000 members, mostly located in the Eastern suburbs and inner Sydney.After decades of searching, FREE in Sydney, now has a unique opportunity to build an adequate centre at 105 Wellington St. Bondi, and has lodged an application with Waverley Council to develop the site.

On Tuesday night, 17 August 2010, almost two hundred members of FREE attended Waverley Council’s meeting to support the application to re-zone the privately owned Wellington St. site, which is currently operated as tennis courts. The lease on the tennis courts has already expired.The centre is much needed to service the Russian speaking Jewish community of Waverley, especially after closure of the Hakoah Club in Bondi, and the reduction of services and future closure of the Benevolent Society in Ocean St. Bondi.According to Waverley Council’s owns statistics, after English, Russian is the most commonly spoken language in the Municipality. This is the result of the Jewish Russian migration to Australia since the 1970s until the late ‘90s. In the 1980s, F.R.E.E. was established in Bondi, by Rabbi Yoram Ulman, to assist and facilitate settlement of the community in Australian society. Since then, they, and their families, have become a vibrant and vital part of Waverley Municipality, and FREE continues to work so that no-one is left behind or disadvantaged.

FREE is non-discriminatory and offers assistance to people from any background, regardless of religious affiliation. Whether it is advocacy to find housing for the homeless, to run English classes for the elderly, to have summer camps for children, to ensure that those without resources are not friendless, to keep a child from delinquency, to counsel families so that they remain stable and happy,

Rabbi Ulman’s and FREE’s work is greatly appreciated and encouraged by all levels of Australian government. Rabbi Ulman has also provided valued advice to Government on ethical aspects of matters such as in-vitro fertilisation, family law and prisoner rehabilitation. He is a Chaplain to NSW Justice System. He has been an advocate for unity in Australian society, for example organising a rally for unity on Bondi Beach in the wake of the Bali bombings. Rabbi Ulman is a member of the Sydney Beth Din (Ecclesiastic Court) and past President of the Rabbinical Council of NSW.The needs of the community are many. The only barrier to FREE being able to do more to meet them is the lack of an adequate community centre, from which to provide quality programs.

Rabbi Ulman, told Tuesday’s Council meeting that re-zoning of the land is necessary, so that a much needed community centre can be built. The community is not wealthy, and cannot afford to buy the land and build the centre without a residential component to the development. The profits from the sale of the residential component will be given to cover the cost of the land and the construction cost of the centre. This requires that residential apartments to be built on the site, and this is why rezoning of the land is needed. Should another source of adequate funds become available, FREE would forego the option to construct the apartments on the site.The Council was told that the site is privately owned land, and that continued use of the land as tennis courts is unviable. The current owner subsidises the operator, as rent paid for the site doesn’t meet costs. This can’t continue. The courts will cease to operate within 6 months, whether or not the community centre is built.

As FREE is a community organization, and accepts that people want to play tennis, FREE has offered to assist Waverley Council to relocate the courts to another location identified by Council.It should be noted that the Wellington St. courts are only technically “open space”. At present there is a modest clubhouse on the site. The courts are not public open space, and it is not parkland. There are no trees or grass or flowers or plants. It is a large concreted space coloured green. Rabbi Ulman also said that, after decades of looking, FREE has concluded that the Wellington site is the only suitable, available land for an adequate community centre to cater for the needs of the largest minority cultural group in Waverley.

FREE is a charitable community organisation that addresses the needs of youth, the aged, young mothers, and families. Given the human tragedy that results from neglecting the needs of youth and the aged in particular, the provision of a communitycentre on the site is a more urgent need than retaining private “open” (empty) space.Rabbi Ulman reassured local residents that the operation of the centre would not disadvantage them.

FREE has operated in Bondi for more than twenty years, and because of its family orientation, it has never had any problems with, or complaints about traffic, parking or noise. At the meeting Council deferred its decision on the application to allow for full consultation on the proposal.


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Eli posts

What a great community, what a great project, the idea of building units to cover the huge building costs of the community centre is plain genius.

Tony Kit posts

Yes Bondi needs more community centres , not privately owned tennis courts, where people have to PAY for privileges to be there . BIG Yes to Community Centre.

Sheina posts

I don’t understand why council making a big deal about rezoning a private space to accommodate community centre , if I understood right, the privately owned land becomes a community asset. It is much better concept and more responsible behaviour , then than of the Waverley council , which it self in the past behave irresponsibly and sold a PUBLIC open space ( that belongs to me and you ) to private developers , I am referring to Dover Heights Bowling Club , Albert Street , Queens Park , Bondi Junction , Ocean street car park - . And now Benevolent Society sold it’s property to developers and, moving out of Bondi area, living a huge gap in social services for elderly people

Feivel posts

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Carolin posts

What a great service FREE is providing in Bondi. Just correcting a misconception about the Benevolent Society - we have not sold our Ocean Street site. We are in fact developing it ourselves to provide much needed affordable housing for older residents of Bondi. We ahve had similar difficulties regarding zoning in Ocean St and Wellington St. Visit our site for more information about our plans for inclusive development to support local community needs through our Apartments for Life project http://tinyurl.com/27he2ma

Bondi Boy posts

Carolin I thank you for your posting and corrections, it shows how easily the community and its residents can be misinformed, and manipulated by the media and council officials. As it was reported in the media, the councillors made allegations about FREE’s proposal. These councillors failed to validate those allegations, but yet the media has published those stories anyway. I guess the council can not accept the fact that there are people around today that actually do acts goodness and kindness, and are concerned for the spiritual and physical welfare of others.

I live in 112 Hall , and I prefer to have residential or community complex next to my block of units , I am driven crazy by the hollow sounds of the tennis bowls heating the court grounds , and flood lights shining in to my windows , the only think I am concern is construction noise.

R Rosenberg posts

The council needs to keep a clear head on this. It is not relevant to the issue of whether open space should be rezoned as to what use someone will use the open space for. Open space must remain open space. It is not potiential land for community buildings. On this basis council should be allowed to build community halls on parks. This is an example of a well connected commuity group making arguments which suit their own cause. No matter how worthy the cause, open space must remain open space. We have precious little of it. There will be other places that FREE can meet. And no cavets can ever protect the land from development once the open space zoning has been lifted. As soon as this is done the land is worth tens of millions and at some point, maybe in 10 years, maybe less, maybe more, it may be sold and again the community group will argue it is in the community interest and they can use that money to relocate elsewhere and we'll be left with no open space and a residential development, no tennis courts and no open space. Council - you must not rezone this land - there is simply no argument for it. If you do you will set a precedent - and all open space is up for grabs. If you think FREE must be given land to build a community centre - give them some of yours and not land which is open space.

To R. Rosenberg : According to current zoning FREE already can go head and build Community Centre on it’s privately owned land known as “Macabi tennis court” their goes “your open space “ The FREE asking to change the zoning so it can build residential component in order to accommodate it’s financial obligation to the community, it provides service for . So FREE don’t fall in to trap of financial burden . The idea is to keep community property free of mortgage. We have plenty of open spaces like Bondi Beach, Centennial park , Waverley Park & etc . This is ( Macabi tennis courts ) private space. Presently FREE is seeking a support to lobby Waverley Council from UN High Commission for Refugees , Refugees Council of Australia , Myers Foundation , Enough is Enough , Kids of the Street Foundation , Spotlight Foundation , Merriton Development Foundation , Westfield Foundation , CARA , and many others . I wish a community a Happy New Year 5771 – and we should have a new centre this Year . Ukrainian Born Jew and proud of it .

objector posts

If FREE can go ahead and build a community centre on the site then go ahead. Zoning exists for a reason. deal with it. If FREE overpaid for the site and can't afford to build what they want as the site is currently zoned, then that's a gamble gone wrong. The tennis courts have been there operating for decades used by many in the community - even if the land is privately owned. Changing the use of the site does increase traffic (now bondi residents will have to drive to other courts in the area), and reduces options for public amenity, health and well-being. We need more open-space zoning - not less. Attempting to change this is irresponsible.

Supporter posts

To objector : Why is it Waverley Council can sell and rezone public open space to private developers when its suit them? I am referring to sales and subsequent rezoning of Dover Heights Bowling club, Albert Street Queens Park at Bondi Junction. This was a public open space sold to developers to make money! FREE is converting private space into an asset for the community, is there anything wrong with this? In any case the tennis courts will cease to operate within 6 months . One should take into account that this is PRIVATE open space not PUBLIC and there neither council nor anyone else should have the right to sterilise it. The community and FREE will start using this property for communal events . FREE, of course, has the right like any other member of the municipality to seek a rezoning if they so desire.

T.Kit posts

Advice : FREE should approach NSW Federation of Hosing Associations inc , they have experience to deal with this issues : The Federations Mission The Federation’s mission is to support the development of a not-for-profit rental housing sector that compares to any around the world, and makes a difference to the lives of lower income and disadvantaged households across the state. Phone: 02 9281 7144 Fax: 02 9281 7603 Suite 301, 64-76 Kippax Street, Surry Hills NSW 2010 nswfha@communityhousing.org.au

No-one is negating the good work of FREE, nor is anyone objecting to their desire for a community centre. What the community is objecting to is the flouting of environmental planning principles that are put in place to protect the whole community. We are well aware the open space is privately-owned. But the developers who have "bought" the land did so with full knowledge of it's Open Space zoning. In fact, the land is ONLY legally valued for what you can use it for under its current zoning. Any argument saying that it is "not viable" to continue utilizing the land according to permissible Open Space uses is irrelevant. Regarding the "The Council was told that the site is privately owned land, and that continued use of the land as tennis courts is unviable. The current owner subsidises the operator, as rent paid for the site doesn’t meet costs" comment, under a Title Search the owners are still Maccabi. The applicant only has binding options to purchase the land therefore they are under no obligation to purchase if the land is not rezoned. Which begs the question...WHO is the owner referred to who is allegedly subsidizing the operator? And what costs are there to be covered apart from rates etc since the land was last purchased 80 or more years ago? Furthermore, the tennis courts do not operate as private club- they are open to anyone. Commentators should check their facts. It seems quite illogical to close the tennis courts due to financial concerns. Is the "owner" that well off to forego what rent they are receiving from the tennis court operators? From where will they earn income from the site whilst awaiting council's decision to rezone? It is baffling from a financial point of view... And to the Resident of 112 Hall St- the tennis courts have been there for more than 80 years. If the sounds of tennis balls are driving you crazy, why did you not consider that before you moved there? Or better still, move. Regarding Open Space: again, we are aware that the Open Space is currently tennis courts and not parkland. We are also aware of what Open Space zoning means and to what can and can't be built there. Open space provides great amenity to an area by way of light, privacy, minimal noise and vastly reduced traffic and parking issues in Australia's most densely populated municipality. Open Space is a finite resource that is irreplaceable. Because Council has sold two Open space sites to developers makes it MORE imperative that we hold onto this zoning. It doesn't make it more acceptable. it just means more Open Space to lose. We hope FREE finds a place for its community centre-even if they, like everyone else has to pay a mortgage. It should be in an area that can support the traffic/parking burden imposed by events for 1000 members at a time (and no, not everyone will be able to walk) in a site with the appropriate zoning. Perhaps, the 13 million dollar state-of-the-art new Hakoah development may be able to offer some space, after having taken it away from Hall Street?

1. FREE is not a developer it is A Community Benevolent Organization 2. a) FREE has purchase the Wellington site with understanding that community centre can be build on this property , and current zoning does allows this . b) According to tennis court operator” Bondi Tennis club” “the current rental arrangement not sustainable any longer by the business “ , the club is closing its operations , and actively looking for a new premises . FREE is actively assisting the club to find a new , affordable home . 3. It has been confirmed that the tennis court is closing its operation dawn. So the issue about tennis courts are closed, after 80 years no more tennis courts at Wellington Street. 4. Now all we have left is Council environmental planning principles , which was device by the council its self , it means it can change its mine regarding its own planning rules , it happen in past . 5. To set the record straight : FREE in the 2002 place bids to purchase Hall Street “Navy Site” currently occupied by Service Apartments , in 2005 FREE try to negotiate with Benevolent Society at Ocean Street , in 2003 Masonic Hall Bondi Rd , in 2009 FREE has approach Medina group ( Hakoh Club Developers ) . FREE has made a major effort to find a new home, please don’t tell us to look somewhere else. We are real people – We are real stories – We are a community Local community centres building stronger communities :Community Centres are powerful and effective partners with government in building more inclusive, just, socially and economically viable and sustainable communities. Community Centres provide a focus for building community capacity through health programs, community education, transitional programs to training and employment, volunteer involvement and children‘s programs

To Bondi Resident1 When I purchase my apartment at 134 Hall Street ,25 years ago , I was hopping that tennis club will relocate , and my apartment price will go up . It finally happen!!!! Thank you FREE G-d bless you .

A.K posts

How FREE change my life . I came to Australia with my wife & daughter in 1989 , my wife past a way in 1994 from sickness at young age of 34 , my daughter died in 1999 in car accident at the age of 17, on corner of Birrel & Bennet Street Bondi . The FREE was always their for me 24/7 providing grief counselling, providing accommodation & meals, mental support . Dr Ariel Bloom (community doctor) treated me as his friend, not as his patient . Thanks to FREE today I am helping other people. In 2009 I have had spent one month in Sed-Gyued Salugara, India where I practiced Traditional Chinese Medicine at the Sed-Gyued Tibetan Monastery, tending to over 250 patients over that time ( totally free of charge ) as an act of goodness , most of them refugees from Tibet . And FREE can take full credit for that. For testimonies you can visit my website www.tcmsydney.com

A.K posts

Perhaps you can write a short story how FREE help you in your business or personal life

A & E posts

Bondi is a centre of the Russian Jewish Community and will be remained so for many years to come. Because of the shortage of space in the area and prohibitation to drive a car on Sabbath and Jewish holidays it makes us to look for the appropriate Centre nowhere else but in Bondi. We see around petrol stations and other "open spaces" sold to developers as not generating enough income. We live in a very expensive area of the most expensive cities in the world. In a city like Toronto, Canada (even in Melbourne), we would build the Centre long time ago for the fracture of the Bondi's price. FREE is in urgent need for such Centre and it’s very much overdue.

objector posts

Nice stories, and even som nice sob stories in there - but sadly they are absolutely irrelevant. The tennis court land are zoned as 'open space'. They should remain that way. If a community centre isn't viable on the site because of the land value, then another site will have to be found on which existing zoning, plus other economic factors, make it viable.

No one is denying FREE of their community centre. As a resident I can't see why they can't renovate the existing centre which would be more cost efficient and more environmentally friendly. That way the property won't need rezoning which is what is concerning residents. Another suggestion would be to use Bondi Pavillion "The Centre of Culture" where many community and cultural events and activities are held. Good luck with the relocation of the tennis courts! If FREE are struggling to find a space for their community centre then where on earth do they think they are going to find OPEN SPACE for these courts when developers are swallowing up the few spaces that are in this municipality!

A.K posts

to Objector The work of FREE may not be relevant to you , since you probably did nothing with your life but object , Mr objector – you have selected the right screen name for your self – it show your persona. Zoning can be modified, customized, adapted or change , it will depend on good will of Council , State Government & Environmental court . The end of day they will have to make a choice, what more important empty space or Community organization that save life’s , saves families , promotes acts of goodness & kindness .

FREE admin posts

To : Objectors , Concern Residents & Supporters Please keep it clean : Just facts : 1. FREE owns & controls 105 & 105A Wellington Street property 2. The tennis courts are moving to another location 3. FREE will start building a Community centre regardless if property rezone or not 4. Rezoning is only required to build residential component to relief financial burden , and to provide residents with some affordable accommodation . 5. Council cannot change zoning, it can only recommend /support or not. Darkness was only place in the world to challenge lights . AS the light intensifies, the darkness thickens to defy it.

I was not born in the former Soviet Union although my grandparents were. I became part of FREE when it first began because I saw a need to help immigrants find a new life here in Sydney. Over the years I have been involved along with my late husband to assist in whatever way to show what a wonderful place we have here. Last year the tables were turned. My husband passed away leaving me and my children virtually destitute.Free assisted me in EVERY way to get me back on my feet, financially, emotionally and of course spiritually. The 'developers' paid thousands of dollars of my debts and still help me today. They helped me pay for a wedding, paid my bond on my flat, helped pay for my health costs and my list could go on. The men who are trying to build residential apartments to pay for the Community Centre will use whatever profits they make to assist people like me. They always do. Don't judge these fine men by what you think you 'know'.The plans they hope to pass through council will just pay for the Centre and fund the services we hope to provide for the community-Golden Age Club, After School Care,English Language Classes and many other services. I would be very happy to meet with any of the objectors here to show you how wrong you are about our community men.

Sydney IVF posts

Nowadays couples have access to a range of treatment options, depending on their circumstances. Under Jewish law, medical intervention including IVF is permitted, and encouraged when needed. The primary concern is correct identification of sperm, eggs and embryos. Any gap in tracing these would raise serious halachic implications for the identity of the child. "Kosher" IVF concerns the verification of samples and integrity of the procedures by having a Rabbi or his or her delegate witness each step of the process, and they supervise all procedures to ensure that there is continuity of people and their samples. At Sydney IVF, embryos have their own incubators, and the Rabbi places a special seal on canisters for frozen embryos. Thanks to FREE many people in your community have excess to our clinic facility. FREE provides Specialised counselling services to you throughout your treatment , FREE also provides nursing staff who are familiar to both of you and your case available 24 hours a day. Those who went through IVF procedures knows how important to have a companionate person next to you . Please continue your good work , and good luck. www.sydneyivf.com Devora Lieberman, Director, Miscarriage Management Program, Sydney IVF

Rosana posts

Flowers Aren’t Enough I was married with 3 children and was abusive relationship for 15 years . finally after years of silent suffering FREE helped me leave my husband. , They helped me take an AVO against my violent partner . They attended all court appearances with me, and provided financial and emotional support. Without FREE’s support I would still be I an abusive relationship. Today I am still connected to FREE and I am helping others to find happiness in their relationship. If you have problem contact www.jewishtaskforce.com.au/ or www.wrrc.org.au/contactus Rosana

objector posts

Oh Dear AK. You do the cause you support no favours through engaging in a foundless personal attack which is tantamount to bullying. I'm sure that there are many supporters of your cause following this conversation who cringed when they read your post. Not exactly an embracing community attitide, is it? There are members of the Bondi community other than those that support the specific development proposal here. Diversity of opinion, and freedom to express that opinion, is a right that we all hold and should be grateful for. Moronic bullying like yours has no place on this site, in Bondi, FREE, or Australia. If it's a dictatorship you're after, I can recommend you move to North Korea. I suggest you revert to substance rather than (lack of) style, or butt out. Over and Out.

To Objector: well said. It is a pity that any member of the community who objects to the rezoning in this forum is unable to say so without personal attacks, bullying or being referred to indirectly as "the darkness" by Free administrator no less. Is this the way FREE deals with legitimate community concerns other than their own? I know Rabbi Ulman would not approach matters in this way so it is unfortunate that certain commentators are not doing FREE any favours through their nasty comments and inferences. No objector has said anything negative about FREE. No-one is calling FREE the developer either. In fact, FREE's work and right to a community centre has been acknowledged. Please try and show some respect for the right's of others to express an opinion. There is also much misinformation being put forth in these comments regarding ownership and "viability" of the tennis academy. Suffice it to say, the real facts are becoming evident as Council follows up on the motions accepted at the August 17 meeting. Over and out.

Geeta posts

Bondi resident is right. The attacks that some people from FREE are making are bordering on the hysterical. It is simply not relevant to the discussion what work FREE does in the community. This is a re-zoning issue and it must be considered on the merits of re-zoning open space in Australia's most densitely populated suburb. I get the feeling that FREE is using emotional arguments to try to "influence" Waverley Councillors. They must resist all attempts to make this decision about the work of FREE. This is not about FREE. This is about open space. Sorry, but it doesn't matter if Mother Theresa had wanted to use the tennis courts for a lepers clinic. The argument is the same. There are other places and other sites that should be used. Not precious and forever irreplaceable tennis courts. And before you come back and say you can build whatever you like there, please draw breath. If you can legally build your community centre as zoned then go ahead, it is unacceptable to ask for a rezoning for your group's financial group, whatever the good work of the group. If this could happen, developers across Australia would use community groups to get land rezoned, make a fortune and we wouldn't have a inch of community zoned land left.

As a long time local resident ive watched as the suburb has changed and while im not against progress and some expansion i think it's pretty clear to all that Bondi is now bursting at the seams. Its easy to understand why Council and non-FREE members would oppose any new developments of this scale - especially when things can and do go wrong after rezoning or approvals (just look at whats happening at the Hakoah club!) Rezoning is a very dangerous thing to do because it's pretty much irreversible. What if if FREE were to lose control of the property for whatever reason and a greedy developer swooped in (Mr Linz even!) - they'd go to town on the site and probably turn that community centre into a Club Med for rich tourists! None of us can say what will happen in the future with FREE and the property - good intentions or not. What i and many Bondi residents i know would like to say to FREE is hey guys we like what you do and support your commitment to the jewish community however this scheme is just too risky for Bondi. Here's an idea: Why dont you get the developer to hand over the keys (he should do as he has stated he doesnt want to make any money on this anyway!) and work with the local community (and your members) to fix the current place up?! Maybe we could keep the courts running but scaled back a bit with FREEs members helping run it like a proper business! The Jewish community knows how to run a business and im sure could make it a profitable enterprise. You could even build an extension or a hall on the extra space a few less courts would provide. There are a truckload of very experienced shed builders just wrapping up all those Fed Govt funded school sheds about now who could knock one up for peanuts! If we work together - we could even do a co-operative whereby we all own the land - FREE and local residents - together in unity. I for one would roll up my sleeves with my Jewish brothers and sisters to build a shared space to achieve all of the things FREE mentions in the article and more. Let's free (no pun intended!) ourselves of this 'us and them' mentality and get to work on a REAL community centre for EVERYONE. Afterall that's just what FREE wants isn't it?

Thank you to all objectors and concern residents, for your ideas & financial creativity, unfortunately all your suggestion are not financially viable, or realistic. You worry about “open space “- empty space ? We worry about lost lives and mental heath . We need facility, we need space, and we need financial freedom to continue to operate. All your theoretical concerns can be dealt with, 1. Other options available to FREE subdivide the property, and sell 50% to State Housing Commission, they will rezone that portion them self’s, and jointly or in partnership build 60 apartments on 2000sqm land package (according to SHC rules). 30 apartments to FREE 30 to Housing Commission. 2. Our current proposal much better – 3. We only need to rezone 50% of the property for residential component. 4. Other 50 % can remain open space community zoning. ( for community centre ) 5. FREE will build 30 apartments , 50% -40% of apartments will be retain by FREE for Low Cost accommodation ( that much needed ) 6. Residents have to understand that total development for the Centre & Residential component will only occupied 60% of the whole property . Total size of the property 4000sqm , Total construction foot print 2600sqm , all the rest, is trees garden & empty space “open space “ frdmn999@gmail.com

Bondi Mam posts

Since our son was diagnosed with developmental disability, we have been fortunate to receive tremendous amount of help from the free organisation. Friends and strangers alike are reaching our to help us in so many ways. When we first contacted free we were not sure how we would be received. Leah M. accepted us with a bright smile and open arms. No challenge is too big for her and she is not judgemental in any way. She keeps track of allergies and important heath details and always touches base with us to make sure things are running smoothly with our volunteers. The volunteers shower our son with love. They are ecstatic when they see even the smallest steps in our son’s progress, and they have thoughtfully included us in their family celebrations. Their sincere dedication gives us inspiration and encouragement, we are grateful for the precious moments of rest that they have given us. Yossi’s Mummy and Tatty

I fill empathetic with residents, who have real concerns about development – this is residents who live next to propose site , no one wants to have development next door to them . Others that concern about open space & tennis courts, they concerns have not been not validated. As a resident of Bondi I would prefer that the council deal with this issue before it gets to State Government. We ( residents of Hall , Wellington, O’Brien streets ) should try to negotiate with FREE for the best outcome proposal for this site. To those who have concern about greedy developers taking over – we should ask Council or State government, to make sure zoning is conditional . Let FREE rezone no more then 50% of the property for residential apartments ,with the limit of 30 maximum , maybe a special zoning can be modified . This way , this property in the future will not be attractive for developers , like it happen to Hakoh Club . By doing this we can make sure today that , in the future no one can build 8 story tower on this property , like its happening at Ocean Street – “Benevolent Society “ they just won a court case against council , and putting 2 towers & 120 apartments for retainment housing . We can object, but this is not simply going against another greedy developer, we are going against other Bondi residents. It can split a community do we really want that to happen , is it worth it ?

Good person posts

Community Centres are powerful and effective partners with government in building more inclusive, just, socially and economically viable and sustainable communities. Community Centres provide a focus for building community capacity through health programs, community education, transitional programs to training and employment, volunteer involvement and children‘s programs It is a call to others to follow Rabbi Ulman example to reach out to any one of the significant number of children in our midst. Orphans, children from painfully broken homes, or in otherwise difficult circumstances who will thrive and blossom just because of your extra act of kindness. Name withheld upon request.

Yes, sob stories DO count, they are the essence of the issue, what's there to love about the current open space (a "green" slab of concrete)? FREE has changed my life and hundreds more from the BONDI community, this is a moral issue not a greeny issue, to my understanding its already zoned for a Community centre, push comes to shove they will build a massive centre occupying the whole "green" slab of concrete, its seems that either way our "green" slab of concrete is to be GONE, Let it also be known, its one hundred percent LEGAL to lobby for rezoning.

Bondi Youths posts

We, the undersigned, call on the Mayor and Councilors of Waverley Council to support FREE application for rezoning, and help them to establishing its new community center facility in the hopes that it can help the Waverley grow, and give families a hope for a better future. A community center would give children places to go after school and even during the summer. It can keep many kids off of streets and help many kids take a break from the troubles of everyday life. Not only this, but having a recreation facility in the center can boost employment opportunities and can be used as a way to give back to the community. One free of crime, economic problems, and to encourage kids and youth to stay out of the streets allowing them to have a place to channel bad feelings. Community centers are used to coach youth and league sport teams, gymnastics, dance classes, karate, aerobics and can provide many families with after school child care. It can be used to host community events and could hold summer camps. This would provide our community with new opportunities of employment like child care, coaches, maintenance, security guards. Mark & James, Youths of the Streets members.

julia posts

A Community Center in a neighborhood is so important. This is where your children will go after school to play, to dance to laugh, to meet children from "the community" instead of going to the malls or going on the computer... The Mayor the Councilors have children, grandchildren, and friends in the Bondi Community that will certainly agree that a center will only enhance the living standards of Bondi-Waverly..Free is run by a fantastic group of individuals that are there to help all ....I know from experience how much they care ...... Julia and Juan

Thanks Julia and the last few commentors ... i think there's general agreement a SMALL community centre wouldn't be a problem and that the work of FREE is righteous and worth supporting. We should perhaps move on from these points - WE ALL AGREE! (sorry not shouting just using the capitals for emphasis ;) What we're discussing though is the REZONING of one of the few open spaces in the area - which (let's be very clear on this) ... is NOT GOOD. And we're discussing an additional 30 APARTMENTS in a quiet Bondi backstreet - which is also NOT GOOD. (bit of an understatement there - it would be disastrous for the immediate area!) Also to be frank while no one is saying FREE are dodgy - FREE don't own the site - some secretive (some might say shady) property developers do. Also i'd like to add to the discussion this point... Sports facilities also offer MANY BENEFITS to the community. Children who play team sports grow confidence and learn vital social skills. A raft of research on the topic has shown that they are MUCH less likely to get involved in anti-social behaviour as they grow up if they play a team sport (like 90% less likely. And of course child obesity is a huge problem at the moment - something sports like tennis minimise. And btw Julia i have great news for you - your children can go to the Tennis courts TODAY and do those things (try it its a fun sport!) So let's be clear the Wellington Street Tennis Courts are VERY GOOD for the community. Does anyone in this discussion actually disagree with any of these points? I'd love to know so we can move on from the shouting match this article has become to one where we can find common ground and create a great outcome for everyone.

shul-less posts

What about the fact that I haven't attended a service at my own synagogue in more than 10 years because the space is too small and the congregation just cannot fit. Now that Hakoah is gone, where are we supposed to go?

Wow that was fast shul-less! (I hate to say it but you know it IS polite when having a conversation to actually respond to the other person!) So ... what about you respond to my points then i'll respond to your question?! (if you wouldnt mind furnishing me with a bit more info it would help me to answer thoughtfully - how big was your last synagogue? how many people were trying to fit into it? And why on Earth in ten years couldnt you get there before the other people so you could participate?!) Ohh and weren't we talking about a community centre for THE WHOLE COMMUNITY not a Synagogue for the Jewish community? Or did i miss something in the rezoning you had in mind?

Freeadmin2 posts

Some facts : 1. FREE is relocating from Hall street to Wellington Street 500 meters away , no real impact on precinct area . 2. 30 apartments is nothing , especially that 20-50% would be used as low-cost housing, and will not be sold ( great benefit to those who cant afford ). “Ocean Street site site 120 apartments” no problem ? Wellington street 30 apartments is ? 3. FREE does owns the site , and if this the only issue that bothering "local residents" , we happy to educate them about Realty contracts – not shady or secretive just smart . 4. Tennis is not a team sport. Tennis is not a fun sport . Tennis is a sport and Tennis academy ( private business ) is moving to new to location just as Maccabi did for the same reason , not viable . in relation to”” we can find common ground and create a great outcome for everyone””. Unfortunately their always will be some one who is not happy. Their you go . Real issue and concerns for residence in near by streets is a noise level during the construction period , property value , views ,all the rest of arguments, are not valued just pretext .

I agree with freeadmin2 posting about real reasons, lets talk about them

After reading the comments I happen to see Freeadmin2's point of view. Bondi owes FREE a decent establishment and facility. we as the Bondi community have only to gain from what FREE does and continues to do DAILY. I applaud Rabbi Ulman and his family, in fact i think its about time that Waverley council awarded the Rabbi with a gold medal of honor together with the approval. one more thing, as I work closely with the Rabbi I know how things work, the developers have no agenda other then awarding their Rabbi and community with a place to grow, in fact I am utterly disgusted by the comments by Mr Wakfield, if a man I voted for can be so irresponsible with his insulting tongue in front of Rabbi Ulman (a man that has worked in the community for over 25 years) SHAME ON HIM he will NOT see mine and many other votes again.

Freeadmin2 posts

Lets get reed of total misconception – the property is 105 & 105A Wellington street Bondi . not Maccabi tennis courts , or Bondi Tennis courts . (Bondi tennis academy) This is the name of the business that operates under licence agreement. This property (105 & 105A Wellington street Bondi) will be known as a FREE Community Centre . Please refer to it as such.

thanks for your effort at responding to my comment Freeadmin2 ..... Ok now we're atleast having a conversation (even though it feels like it's just me with a group of FREE members! ;) ... OK lets get into those points shall we? .... 1. The Hokoah Club fronted Hall street - a busy shopping precinct, Wellington street is residential which really is a MASSIVE difference. Its like saying that because i live within 500 metres of a busy road i wouldn't mind it being diverted down my street ..... 2. 30 apartments (AND A huge community centre of course!) is definitely SOMETHING ... in the part of Wellington street (from O'Brien to Hall Street) that the apartments and FREE complex would front onto (causing traffic gridlock and severe parking pain for the street) there are less than 30 families being housed! So you are talking about DOUBLING that! I think we can all agree that 30 apartments in this context isn't NOTHING! its HUGE! .... 3. Whether FREE own it or not isnt a big point - as in the end it might slip back into unsavoury hands in the future. But still yes - i think in the interests of fair and transparent negotiations FREE should provide evidence of the ownership - good idea! ..... 4. Where to begin on the Tennis Not Fun comment!? Firstly, Tennis actually IS a team sport - here's the wikipedia definition: Team sport includes any sport which involves people working together towards a shared objective. Heard of doubles? that's 2x2 teams right there and can be played in even larger groups for social occasions. Also i think the many many people from the local area (including many Jewish people and there children i might add!) who go to the Wellington Street Courts now to play would disagree that it's not fun! You are of course entitled to your personal opinion on the game! ... My understanding on the courts (i dropped by and asked btw) is they are currently leased and the owner (unless forced?) wasn't planning on going anywhere .... Finally, of course local residents have their personal issues about the property becoming a mega complex - and they've been open about this i think. It's their street after all - and these are valid issues and shouldn't be swept under the carpet like these people don't matter. And it doesnt negate the other many arguments against the mega complex - it just reinforces that this project will have TOO MANY negative impacts on too many people in its current form. To OSH Rd - while your opinion is valid and welcome here you really cant argue it's unbiased if you work with the Rabbi! (Though good on you for reading all the comments first before ending up with an opinion that supports him all the same!) .... Whether the Rabbi's intentions are unquestionable or not (im from the school that NO ONE's intentions should remain unscrutinised when a larger stakeholder group's wellbeing is at stake - but for the moment let's go with the Rabbi being a special case) .... i think it's reasonable for Cr Wakfield to question the motives of property developers who - ahh how can i be tactful here - are on the whole not the most respected members of the business community! .... Perhaps its the bad apples amongst them and others are unfairly tarnished - or its the way they expand a development well beyond the initial proposal at the expense of everyone else in the community, like the Hokoah club fiasco - but ultimately you can't blame the councillor for wondering if maybe, just maybe - the property developers backing this project are more interested in the money they'll make from the apartments rather than the common good. Surely even the most pro-developer person can see that there's some ground for scepticism here! Not sure what to say about Bondi owing FREE a huge property deal- so many great community groups and individuals have been doing great things for the community for decades - long before FREE arrived i might add. Last i heard they weren't being given multi-million dollar property deals to say thank you! .... I am for the Gold Medal however!

Freeadmin2 posts

To: Inna Wellington St Your concern is ?

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To : Local Ideas man . Is anything wrong utilising a community centre for Synagogue services ? FREE used a Hakoh club for Synagogue services , it did not make a Hakoh club a Synagogue , FREE in the past used Swiss Grand hotel for Synagogue services – it did not change its USE it still a hotel , Jewish community used Waverley Council Hall for Synagogue service - . So what is your point are you against Synagogues ? by the way before you answers this quotation look up true translation of the word Synagogue , it comes from Greek “place of gathering “-

We all SUPPORT the amazing work that Free does however the main thing that is being overlooked by such a huge amazing community centre ( such as Bondi Youth describes) is that Wellington St CANNOT SUPPORT the increase in traffic and parking pressure. Quite simply this developement as it stands is untenable.

Freeadmin2 posts

To Local Idea man . Your posting : “”Ohh and weren't we talking about a community centre for THE WHOLE COMMUNITY not a Synagogue for the Jewish community?”” Just to inform you FREE is all inclusive organization regardless of denomination , Based on the philosophy that every person has greatness within, our programs are non-denominational and non-discriminatory . as part of its Spiritual Programs FREE developed a program for non Jewish members ( with out any missionary flavor ) this program call Children of Noah or -- Bnos Noah . Advice TO LOCAL IDEA MAN before you shoot your mouths , do some research , I am not talking about Goggling .

Freeadmin2 posts

To: Welli St resident , Thank you for bring a real issue . 1. Parking – A) Council already policing the area , and install time limits zone , residents including myself have been issued with Zone permits stickers . The Community Centre & apartments will have their own parking (presently there is no parking facilities at the location, and according to operators of the business at the site presently, they have 400 users per week , with out any private parking facility . And if you contented with present situation, let me tell you their will be more parking spaces available of the street, after we complete our development. 2. Increase of traffic --- it is a tale used to scare residents. No increase in traffic, may be even less that you have now . FREE club BUZ120 uses 3 buses kindly donated by community member to bus approximately 90 to 100 elderly people to the centre, the buses do not park on the street they go back to depot , and come after they call in to pick up elderly residents. People who will occupied the apartments, we are assume will contribute to pressure on local public transport , we will have discus that with RTA

Freeadmin2 posts

Traffic Basic maths – – max scenario – meaning it can happen. Presently 6 tennis courts in total 2 players per court play 1hour = 12 cars movement per hour =operating hours 7 -11 total 16 hours operation per day = 12*16 = 192 cars movements per day from the current business , Our proposal 30 apartments = 60 movements per day , Community centre- today we have at Hall street total 55 movements , lets double that to 110 , total 170 potential verses 190 potential ( this not including tennis trainers , and gym users )

Freeadmin2 - quick response - nope nothing wrong with synagogues - all for them! Thanks for clarifying for me- so if FREE can use other facilities for them then great - lets see what other properties you can use - what floor space do you need? Also i dont think anyone is ready to concede that the property should be renamed FREE community centre just yet! i like your chutzpah though! wellington st - you know sometimes its best just to be succinct isnt it! i couldnt agree more though it took me hundreds of words to say it and you just a handful - something in that for all of us folks! aaaannd back to Freeadmin2 and your post re: the greatness of FREE which sees the greatness within of all of us - i was referring to a previous post from Shu-less re: the need for a massive synagogue - ive stated it before and ill state it again for you - and its not meant to offend i assure you ... but my friend its NOT ABOUT YOU! it's about the property proposal not being appropriate for the area.... myself and most of the neighbourhood support a SMALL community centre WITHOUT apartments on the site and many of us support you using it for your activities (and i hope after all this i'll be welcome to come by for some tea even!).... so given no one is arguing your point on this can we move on from FREE and its awesomeness PLEASE! ... Speaking of awesomeness .... It's Google, not Goggle.

Freeadmin2 posts

To : Local Idea man It is obvious. No mater what we reply, you wont be happy with the answer. So tell us what is really on your mind. I will make it easier for you don’t want any developments taking place next to your house! All the rest is just a pretext, something to hide behind. Ok, we hear you , and as residents of Bondi , we respect your opinion as long you respect ours. There is no use writing essays.

Freeadmin , Thankyou for clarifying traffic and parking issues , it is logical

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To Local Idea Man your posting " Also i dont think anyone is ready to concede that the property should be renamed FREE community centre just yet! i like your chutzpah though! wellington st -" you ARE wrong WE ARE READY!!!! Some times you see that things have been taken out of your hands and are following a supernatural order. At this point, just do your best at what you have to do - and stay out of G-d's way .

It's now clear that YOU "local ideas man" are unethical and a disgrace, you make fun of immigrants spelling, shame on you, if I were you I would change my screename and while you at it change you point of views as they seem very not logical. If only you new how to appreciate goodness and ethics you would probably have very different views.

To Freeadmin2 -its been a long day of commenting and your obviously tired so maybe we should leave it for now! Of course you can make me happy! you can reply with yes you're right Local Ideas Man .. a smaller community centre without apartments would be more apporiate for the area - or atleast we're keen to talk about it - lets work out how that might work before we say no to it .. then i will agree AND be happy with your reply! ....Simple! .... Or you could respond to my points with logical rational arguments and move off the FREE is great and everyone who disagrees with us and has property interests in the area is somehow lying on all other points of contention angle - that would also make me happy because we'd be getting somewhere at least .. ohh and you could also give me a few points for being right (like with the team sports thing!) ... i mean fair suck of the sauce bottle mate - i did have a point!.... I would also be happier with your responses if you would play the man and not the ball with me like you did when discussing traffic & parking just now ... i haven't once suggested you had a hidden agenda (your agenda is of course very very clear!) or that you were lying (i just think your facts are wrong and your judgement clouded) - please do me the same courtesy ..... so ... (and finally i promise) ... on that comment you made about traffic etc ... it's clear your facts and figures are fanciful re: traffic and parking impacts but lets leave that for now - it was your comment that you would simply influence the RTA to upgrade public transport that really blew me away. That IS impressive - how would you manage that do you think. As for your assumptions underpinning your maths re: the car movement of the Tennis club -well they were rather wild numbers to say the least! Assuming 2 players = 2 cars is odd logic (friends one would imagine drive to the courts together as often as not and locals walking or cycling to the courts would also lower the nbrs further surely). But more substantially assuming that the courts are operating at full capacity is just plain silly (ill chalk it up - pun intended - to the lateness of the evening - Mate have you been to the courts? they aren't wimbledon! They have regular patronage but are NOT at full capacity - in fact i cant imagine any courts in the world that would be) ... so to conclude ... I respect your right to an opinion my friend but i do not necessarily agree with it or respect the logic underwriting it ... Signing off for the day ... Local Ideas Man.

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Why FREE needs to build apartments on its own property ? It call responsible planning or financial l responsibility . There was a time when people did not have careers. People did not live to acquire material wealth. People worked to earn enough for their families to eat that day, with little extra saved for rainy day. Today we are slaves of the houses, the cars and the gadgets we must acquire. Today we have to do financial planning and act responsibly for the future; we see many benevolent organisations straggling to meet their financial commitments , we at FREE don’t want to fall in to trap of financial difficulties , we cannot rely on governments for their handouts , or donations from the public ( today we see the results of Financial crises at hand ) . We have to minimize are financial exposure, and at the same time provide community with much needed low cost affordable accommodation. By building 30 apartments on our privately owned land at 105 Wellington street , we can archive both financial independence from the banks , and deliver much needed affordable housing to the community , this way we l can secure are future. Yes we have to make sacrifices, it may be looking down on green gardens & block of apartments instead of empty green concrete space , and being squash on the RTA bus on the way to work, and missing the hollow sounds of the tennis bowl . But you know , watt its worth it.

Just saying posts

For the record Local Ideas Man, I think that it's good that you are raising the real planning issues relating to this development. Reading this debate it looks to me like FREEadmin is avoiding the planning issues and simply relying on emotional arguments. Those arguments are simply completely irrelevant to consideration of a planning proposal. In fact, the Council surely knows that it would need to make a better case for a rezoning than "they are nice people". Obviously the reason that this site is so important to FREE is because of the massive uplift in value offered by the rezoning for the residential component. I guess if I were a developer (shady or otherwise), I too would be prepared to bankroll a community centre if I got to develop a piece of land in bondi for medium density that I had bought for peanuts because of an open space zoning. Of course the community centre component is handy to the developer as it makes the rezoning a lot more palatable to the Council as elected reps. Without the community centre I guess that it's a bit of a hard sell to the Council. It's a win win for the developer and FREE, but good planning is not about delivering outcomes to developers - it's about planning for functional, habitable communities. I don't think we should let FREE's financial plans dictate the planning outcomes for the site. So here's an idea for a fair resolution to this issue. How about the constraints and potential of site get properly assessed as part of the integrated planning assessment which is already taking place for the new Bondi plan? I don't see any rationale for a spot rezoning when there's a new plan covering all of Bondi local government area coming up in less than 12 months which can consider rezoning the site in the context of an assessment of all of the needs and planning issues of the entire Bondi area (and as part of the Sydney East metro region). Anyone else up for an objective process?

Freeadmin2 posts

Planning issue : Use KISS principle : 1. Land total size 4000sqm , ratio zoning 1:1, means FREE will only use 2000sqm for Both buildings, as a total construction area , which is 50% of the land . 2. Other 50% 2000sqm will remain a true open space , with trees , and grass, flower beds & grey concrete. 3. Parking & Traffic issues are dealt by the town planers, at this time , the assessment shows no impact by the propose development, infect it good bee reduction in traffic & more off-street parking . There is no zoning issues , we are not asking council for extras - Simply please lets us build , on our land 30 apartments, which consistent with existing surrounding zoning . In relation to continues allegations about shady developers helping FREE , the only shady character around here is you . Your continues allegations of conspiracy does not surprise us at all . We have to deal with this all the time “ Blood Libel, Christ killing , Taking over the world, controlling media etc . Again your allegation, are not substantiated and bogus , it shows you have no credibility to represent concern residents ..

Vova posts

Money sucks! let's abolish it! imagine the world without money... the world without limits... working for goods and for good of all... Wouldn't you like to be a part of such a world? Let's take a ride together! http://www.abolishmoney.com/why_abolish_... Petition: We, call on PEOPLE AND ORGANIZATIONS to Support FREE

Guru posts

Youth centre Young people with nothing to do and nowhere to go can cause anti-social behaviour. This project would help them to find positive activities in a safer environment. We the undersigned believe the FREE Project “Community Centre & Residential apartments “ would be of real benefit to the area and its residents. We call on the council to, take bipartisan approach, on this project proposal and assist FREE with rezoning application . Educators & Mentors

UNCFR posts

A "refugee" is not the same as just an immigrant. The term "refugee" is referred to a person who owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group, or political opinion, is outside the country of their nationality, and is unable to, or owing to such a fear, is unwilling to avoid himself/herself of the protection of that country (1951, UN Convention Relating to the status of Refugees).

SubBr RSL posts

To all Councilors of Waverley City Council . We respectfully ask that you members of Council support application made by Friends of Refugees of Eastern Europe Limited to rezone 105 Wellington Street , Bondi NSW . Friends of Refugees of Eastern Europe Limited provided in the past & continues provide important service to our World War 2 Veterans from the former Soviet Union . Community Center is a place for meetings & social interaction , given the growing needs of this community it is necessary to expand existing facility . We understand FREE”s proposal , and fully supporting it. Thank you for your consideration & support. Mr. Zygment Mos Vice President RSL –Sub branch of VAWW2VSU

RSJFA posts

Russian speaking Jewish Federation of Australia Founded in 2003 Unites Russian-speaking Jewish communities of Melbourne, Sydney, and other Australian cities Assists in the exchange of expertise and experience within the Russian-speaking Jewish communities Represents Russian-speaking Jewish communities in the International Congress of Russian-speaking Jews. We, the undersigned , on behalf of our members: 1570 in Sydney , 800 in Melbourne call on the Waverley Council to support members of our community in their endeavor to build a new facility 'Multicultural Centre” in the growing suburb of Bondi. RSJFA . http://www.cursor.net.au/public_organisa...

World Congress of Russian Jewry is a non-governmental umbrella organizations aimed to unite and represent the interests of the Russian speaking Jewry worldwide. The goal of the Congress is to foster the integration of Russian speaking Jews into the Jewish cultural, communal and public life in the countries of their residence and to support the the International coalition in its fight against terrorism and extremism. We, the undersigned, support FREE decision to build the Community Centre and fund it through the construction & sales of residential development on its lot, in order to reduce financial burden World Congress of Russian Jewry Presidium http://www.wcrj.org/en/

Idea man posts

FREE why are you going global, for the support, what Sydney to small for you? We have plenty of local Jewish orgs in Sydney to support your project, or you have big ego, to ask for help? Jewish Care , Jewish Family House , Jewish House , Sth Congregation, Yeshiva , Big Kitchen, Montefiory nursing homes , Jewish Museum , Moriah College , Central Shoul and many many more . Raise your hand, will be there to help you !!!! You doing wonderful job so don’t be farkakt , be a manch . Any way Hatzloha

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After reading all for and against here , I do believe FREE should take the case to Land and Environment Court, citing the substantial social benefits that it will bring. I also believe that the evidence, on an economic as well as social cost efficiency basis will strongly support not only the desirability of this model but also the extensive local demand for it.” FREE you have responded well to the unprecedented growth in Australia’s ageing population by providing services , and new solutions to help older people age well. You have won my support . Michael R. Simson Street

FREE I am with you 100%

Dr I .G posts

I am Hall Street long time resident , I would like to support your project, and help you archive your goal , I am specializing in ENVIROMENTAL GEOCHEMICAL MAPPING OF URBAN AREAS , and can prepare submission , on your behalf to LCA , or State Government planning Committee . Wishing you all the best in 5771. Dr I. Goldberg

Freeadmin2 posts

To Idea man: thank you kindly for your concern, no we don’t have a big Ego , the reason we not asking for support from J-orgs , for two reasons 1. We taking a soft approach with Council , no massive lobbing , no protests , no articles in the paper , no advertorials . This is our Council and , we are the residents & rate payers, we hope that the councillors will do rights thing by us . 2 This is not a Jewish issue as such , it is more general . But if need to, we will turn on all our ‘taps’ and ask for help from all our friends ., Local , interstate , overseas……..and most important the )One Above (

objector posts

This is tiring. For the record: I have played fairly irregularly at the courts for 10 years. I have never driven to the courts. All my tennis partners live in Bondi, and don't drive to the courts. So let's not pretend that traffic will be cut. We will now have to drive to Cooper park (which is very busy) or Rose Bay (also busy). None of us live next to the courts, so construction noise etc is not an issue for us. Seems that those stencilling 'we the undersigned' are all mates, or the same person, posting again and again. Way to go. If there are that many community organisations already around, why not buddy-up for facilities, or use the Bondi pavilion like any other social organisation would if they needed a meeting place? I'll concede - there are possibly some specific cultural issues that I'm not aware of that I could do with understanding on this point (if I could deal with the tedium of reading the emotional responses - which (again) do not help your cause people - you benefit from more understanding and sympathy - not less - so don't put people's backs up). 'Just saying' and 'ideas man' have some good points: developers do LOVE your work, FREE. By denying every point that an interlocutor makes - no matter what - you weaken your own cause. Best to concede some, and emphasise the benefits of your own. Why am I coaching debate and negotation? Unsubscribe.

S . Levitt posts

How FREE helped changed the lives of many Bondi residents. I came to Australia from Moscow Russia with my mother in 1978 and moved straight to Bondi Beach. I was witness to the gentrification of the area from a rough and not very desirable suburb to one of the jewels in Sydney's crown. Much of this improvement has been due to organizations such as FREE setting up in the area .FREE not only provides residents with recreational activities and a learning centre , but also 24/7 grief counselling, accommodation, meals & mental support . I personally know of many Bondi residents whose lives have been positively impacted by FREE and everyone should get behind them. It is a credit to FREE that they are looking at ways of self funding their community centre project rather than putting their hand out. I think the whole Bondi community should get behind their proposal.

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1. You should be much-admired for not driving .2. Traffic issues are dealt by traffic engineers , who have done , the count of the cars movements from 3 properties . 25 O’Brien Street , 105 Wellington Street, 28 Ocean Street ( similar number of apartments that we proposed ) for potential evaluation. Your advice about :::: there are that many community organisations already around, why not buddy-up for facilities, :::: my argument to that - Well if you have other tennis facilities around the area , why don’t you go play there . This my property not yours ! 2. You right about – “””Seems that those stencilling 'we the undersigned' are all mates,””””” Well you now “”FREE”” stands for “” Friends of Refugees”” . “”””or the same person, posting again and again.”””” Way to go.” Another accusation – conspiracy THEORY? . When going to stop and except ,we are Real people –Real Stories- We are Real Community . ** And thank you for pointing out ,how we weaken our cause . 3. Well, you done the right thing by Unsubscribe, because your issue is no more – No more Tennis Court Business , at 105 Wellington Street Bondi .

Just saying posts

Yes, this is tiring. I don't think that anyone is disputing whether FREE does good work. Surely it does. The issue is whether the courts should be rezoned, not whether FREE should or could have a community centre somewhere in Bondi. The fact is that FREE's community centre and associated residential development is not lawful on the wellington street site right now. FREE bought the land fully aware of the risk that it may never be able to carry out its development. If FREE wanted certainty for its development, it should have bought a piece of land on which its development proposal was lawful. It may be that FREE will close the courts at wellington street, but this does not mean that it can do anything else with the site, except those uses permitted by the current zoning. Not interested in listening any more to FREEadmin's one sided rants. And by the way, FREEadmin, your accusation of anti-semitism toward my very factual and neutral earlier comment was just completely obnoxious and very very offensive. As another commentator suggested, play the ball not the man. Unsubscribe.

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To Just Saying : 1. Is anything illegal, in asking the council to change a current zoning, on the land that we own? 2. Community centre on this site, is legal according to the current zoning . 3. We purchase the land with intention to build Community Centre which again LEGAL . Not interesting lessening , our reasons for rezoning , what can I do , start typing about dead new born children, that been found in shoeboxes , because the new mother could not find help, or pensioners , that been found dead in their apartments moths after they died – because no one cared ? or people living in cars or on the street because lack of accommodation ? 4. Your comments , that you call “””””factual”””””” , actually fictional and not neutral , but mud throwing , that you hope going to stick , well its not working . May be I am little aggressive in my answers but its only I am passionate and carrying about helping other people - so you know what sue me!

Leah.M posts

Dear, A.K I was touched deeply by your story . I cant imagine the degree of pain you must have suffered , it makes me want to reach out to those who are hurting, I give you a blessing from the bottom of my heart that G-d should give you strength to work through your pain and become a builder of klal yisroel.

Saray posts

I work for an organisation that services children with special needs. I just finished trying to arrange financing for many children who need to go to summer camp. It’s not as simple as it used to be. The funding to send children with special needs had been cut, and camps can not extend themselves as much as they used to. Meanwhile parents are desperately trying to make ends meet, food costs are exorbitant and charges for utilities have gone sky high. One thing is free - benevolence - good deeds I know a woman from FREE who, after work, babysits for no charge for someone who is in a very tough situation. But that is only one way we can help each other during this difficult time. There are many ways to help each other that do not cost money. We can give attention to people who we don’t normally relate to. We can smile and say positive words blowing messages and help each other cope. There is a lot we can do. Lets stop and think about them and most of all lets do them. It does not cost anything, and it makes a big difference here., I would like to see a regular column, or other people posting ways which we can help each other without spending money. Together we can accomplish a lot.

Most of the proponents testimonials are emotive but irrelevant to what is simply a zoning issue. The more offensive attacks on the opponents highlight only a more desperate attempt to ignore the key issue of ZONING. FREE wishes to have land re-zoned from open space to 2c. This would increase the land value from $2 to $20 million regardless of what is eventually built on it. ie FREE wishes council to endorse a payment/asset revaluation to their group of $18 million. What precedent would this set for other charitable institutions to seek similar favourable treatment. And what about non religious institutions eg North Bondi SLSC. Their members save lives weekly. If they were of similar mindset to the FREE proponents, they also should be seeking a nice big cheque from council for the club's redevelopment. Why stop at organisations/institutions. What about the doctors, ambulance drivers, nurses etc in the community who also save lives / do good. If FREE is to be consistent, then these people too should get special zoning consideration on their own sites. The previous application to develop this site was withdrawn because of community unrest. This cynical new attempt to develop this site thru a religious charitable group is divisive and not what our broader Bondi community - of all religions, ethnicity and ancestry -needs. Keep the emotion checked. It's all about the zoning(and that $18 million or so). The desires of any group or individual developers are never more important than the planning rules and zoning that applies to all in the Bondi community.

What’s is going on with this council, who are they protecting ? Just because the council can not provide Tennis courts to the public - They want to force community organization to maintain not viable usage of the property ? Are they protecting interests of the wealthy tennis players ( 300 -400 voters ) at the expense of the benevolent organisation? Where is social justice? Why did Maccabi sold the land ? Because it was not longer viable to operate at Wellington street , present business (Bondi Tennis academy operated there , because it was given to them , temporarily at ½ price what it should be ) And now its moving out also. The Council is practically bankrupt – it has no financial cense ., it Sold of its open spaces – to cover its deficit , and watt ? it still in red ! May be they should learn from FREE :- they trying to sell 25% of the Asset to keep 75 % of property , even Benevolent Society at Ocean Street cannot match that , they formula is to sell 70% of development , and keep 30% . O may be the council just politicising the issue? Council should be FREE of politics, it should be run by independence only .

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to : Itsallaboutzoning Well Well a spokesman for the hole community ? Why such low figures you may is well indicate not 18m – but 50m or 100m , and what wrong to ask the council to endorse a payment/asset revaluation to their group of “” or even”” 100 million”” your comment: - What precedent would this set for other charitable institutions to seek similar favourable treatment ?------ .The precedent already been set long time ago. We all fo, r anyone who wishes to use it assets , to minimise its financial burden . And how does it personally affecting you ? Are going to lose your sleep? Just because some organisation had win fall of 100milion? Yes we saving life’s , and yes we make a difference in this world . Planning rules and zoning are change all the time , for different reasons . We have the right to ask , to lobby , to petition, etc . And yes you the right to object – Democracy. By the way we have full support of other denominations in Waverley , and non religious groups & clubs , so all your postings are just your own personal fiction .

To Freeadmin2: Using the Queen's English, the correct adjective is whole not hole, unless this was an attempted witty pun on your valuation of open space. Or perhaps you find the grammatical rules of English as irrelevant to you as any planning rules. Your 100 million valuation seems a little ambitious but only reinforces the inappropriateness of any special gift to FREE or any other organisation. Your inability to see the social injustice in this highlights your own lack of insight and your disregard for the wider community. The " precedent already been set long time ago" you refer to is/are what exactly?? The one point we agree on is how wonderful it is to live in a democracy. May we all respect the rules ( including ZONING ) within that democracy. All the best.

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To : Itsallaboutzoning Thank you for pointing out my gramma mistakes , but you are dealing with Refugees , under class citizens .You Write : “””Your 100 million valuation seems a little ambitious but only reinforces the inappropriateness of any special gift to FREE or any other organisation. Your inability to see the social injustice in this highlights your own lack of insight and your disregard for the wider community. “” I am for social Justice and I wish every worth while organization should get 100million , but I see you have a different view , in relation to disregard to wider community? How do we disregard wider community ? Do we put money in individual pocket , or pockets of developers ? No !! we put money straight in to community.. ---this what you call unjust ?? You know watt, I am willing to take English lessons from you , providing you will learn about social justices , goodness & kindness .

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During my time at a correctional institution in NSW (for a crime I did not commit), I had the privilege of being visited by volunteers from FREE on a regular basis, I believe that a halt to the proposed site rezoning is not only a crime but a block to the continuation and growth of this tremendous project. I call on the Mayor and Co. to start listening to REAL PEOPLE and take action immediately .

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Dear Mayor Betts, I urge you to stand with FREE on this vital project, your input is needed for my community, Its almost incomprehensible how we former Russians now proud Australians have to fight our freely democratic government to give us a center, we just cant take no for and answer, I hope you can put on the glasses of freedom and see our needs as clearly as we saw the open doors to Australian free society. With respect. Roman

To : To Shmoke who keeps writing long essays - Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex .... It makes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in opposite direction . “ Albert Einstein

To: Freeadmin2. Re your request for English lessons, happy to help out but I think you need more help with basic principles of social justice and economics. Yes , it would be wonderful for FREE to receive 20, 50 or even 100 million as you suggest. This would certainly help them to continue their admirable work. But isn’t the work of The Smith Family, The Salvos, The Benevolent Society, The Christian Brothers and Jesuits and dare I say it- The Australian Islamic movement- equally honourable. And what about non-religious non-charitable instituitions in our community that do fantastic deeds- The RSL, Bondi and North Bondi Surf Life Saving Cubs , youth groups and local sporting and bowling clubs. Surely you’d agree that REAL social justice would be for all these groups/ institutions to each receive 20-100 million like FREE. The problem is of course the economics of this. The cost of this is untenable to the whole community who must ultimately pay for this. Changing the rules for you and giving your group that 20-100 million but not doing the same for the rest of these community groups, I’m sure you’d now agree is not fair or reasonable to the whole community. If you think otherwise, then I suggest you have a good hard look at yourself in the mirror. If still in doubt , give yourself an uppercut! Remember, it’s all about the zoning. Implicit to and consequent of this , is respect for community planning, real social justice and good economics. I do not intend making further posts, as my points have been made and I’d hope any reasonable non-aligned person would see the merit in them. I will leave the emotive ("dead babies, darkness")language to the proponents and remind them of an old proverb about empty barrels and noise. To the more articulate opponents, I’d remind you of the proverb about the dangers of arguing with fools. All the best to our Bondi community.

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To : Itsallaboutzoning : How lucky we are, that you don’t work in Treasury. You not for social justice - you stand for Communist Justices. Communist manifesto was – is, make everyone equal - so they did , they made every one destitute . As per your comment : proverb about the dangers of arguing with fools. Totally agree with you , and promise not to argue with you – I will just ignore you . May you be bless and win 2million , this lottery draw , so you can move out of the Bondi area . With G-D blessings , only for good .

Dear Councillor Bondi United Soccer Club is an amateur community sporting association, with one hundred members, playing in youth to adults leagues, almost all of whom live in Waverley Municipality. The club’s membership is made up of people of all backgrounds, including some Jews of Russian descent. We are grateful for the guidance and support given by FREE in our operation to date. We use FREE’s facilities for communication and meetings. Many FREE members support us as spectators and sponsors. We therefore very much support the construction of a proper community centre for FREE, as we will be utilising these facilities, once built, to have more meetings, functions and fund raising events. We will also take advantage of physical fitness training that FREE members will be able to provide at the new facility. Thus we will be able to build our youth teams and offer more opportunities for the youth of Bondi, of all religions and backgrounds, to enjoy playing competitive soccer Therefore we ask the Council to support the rezoning application made by FREE to build residences on the property that they own, so that they can fund this much needed development. Yours truly D. Chachko Club President Signed

Dear Councillor, Please read what I have to say to you. Please understand what Friends of Refugees of Eastern Europe means to me. Please allow us to build our new community centre. I am 86 years old and I am alone. Attending F.R.E.E.s senior citizens’ club once a week is my only social activity. There are hundreds like me who live in Waverley, who love what FREE tries to do for us. But because its building is small, only some of us can go every week. Not only is it small, but the bathroom is downstairs and to use it is complicated. This is a problem for most of us. We need a bigger and better centre that we can be comfortable to use. I came from the Ukraine to Australia. We were a community there for a thousand years. We have our own culture, traditions, food and dialects. Only FREE in Sydney understands this and what it means to us, because the organization comes from us. What harm is there to anybody if we have a new centre? There is none. Who does it hurt? No-one. Are people afraid that their street will change a little bit? It will change very little. Wellington St. isn’t the Amazon jungle. And FREE isn’t trying to burn it down. When the centre is built, the worst thing that will happen to the neighbours is that they will see me every day. And the best thing for me, is that I will see them every day. Yours truly Bella Kay

Dear All , It’s incomprehensible that the FREE proposal to develop its Wellington St., property, is under threat,. Every time there is a development in Bondi, the same tired group of political operatives are shown in the press protesting “on behalf of the community”. In reality they represent hardly anyone. Why are they given such a free ride, to make any progress difficult? It’s an abuse of democracy. On the one hand newspapers scream about housing shortages and outrageous rents, then they publicise small but loud protests about developments that will increase housing stock and therefore improve rental affordability. It’s just so easy to oppose something. You can play on people’s fear of change. You can distort facts. You can assert the right to an opinion even if it’s baseless. And it’s so hard, even in Australia, to do something positive, without apparatchiks making baseless accusations of greed. I grew up in the former Soviet Union. We knew well, and fled from, the techniques of Soviet “agitprop”. We knew how agitators spread rumours, and lies, and how these were used by authorities to suppress any progress and change. When my family came here as refugees we had to meet the following definition. - “the person has a real fear of persecution, and that the government of the country concerned will not or cannot protect the person”. Australia accepted that we were fleeing for our lives. We came with nothing and remain overwhelmingly grateful for the chance to be able to build a life in this wonderful democracy. The FREE proposal is our way of contributing to society. The proposal is well conceived. It fills a real need in the community. It respects the urban environment. It puts people first. It will provide much needed low cost housing in Bondi. It will help youth, the aged, families, and the disadvantaged. It will be a great asset to Waverley. It is a proposal that merits Waverley Council approval and not kneejerk hysteria. Yours truly

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The Lubavitcher Rebbe, a man of great vision and inspiration constantly encouraged the establishment of community centres around the globe.These centres have never been at odds with the surrounding area but rather blended harmoniously. These centres have benefitted the jewish communities and the wider communities. The FREE community centre will be an asset to us all. The wellington street location is perfect.The concept to fund the project is a sound and sensible approach, and it seems obvious to me and many others that this site has been earmarked from Above. Rabbi And Rebbitzin Ulman have my support and look forward to celebrating the opening of the centre together with the whole community in the near future.

Dear Councillors, As residents of Waverley, and as regular tennis players at the Bondi Tennis Centre, we are very upset that Waverley Councillors, some of whom couldn’t care less about tennis, pretend that it’s a big tragedy if 105 Wellington St. is rezoned so that a new community centre can be built for FREE. FREE took the trouble to show us the plans for the rezoning of the site and for the proposed community centre, and we are very impressed. This is what Bondi really needs. We have used the courts at Wellington St. twice weekly for the last 15 years. If you ask us, which you haven’t, what is more important - our game of tennis there or the proposed community centre, where youth, the elderly, young families, people in crisis, the lonely, and ordinary people are able to enjoy life – we would emphatically tell you that it’s no contest. The need of FREE for a community centre, enabled by rezoning is, by far the more important social priority. It’s not as if there is no alternative courts available. At Lyne Park, there our plenty of courts available, and we are happy to drive one minute more to get there. For those who want to walk, or jog to a court, there is a very pleasant path leading down O’Sullivan Road to Lyne Park. We know that Lyne Park is in Woollahra Municipality, but last time I checked there is no border to cross, and a valid Passport is not required. And once Waverley Municipality establishes the new approved courts as promised in its Masterplan, there will certainly be adequate courts to meet demand in the general area. So how about some social reality in this matter, and no more equating things that are trivial with the very real social needs of thousands of people. Yours faithfully A.Palura J.Kotlyar A.Rabinovich

Sub: Acknowledgement of the services rendered by The Friends of Refugees of Eastern Europe Limited in various fields towards making our school an instrument of educational development for the Tribal and poverty stricken people of the area. Respected Sir, We owe to you a deep debt of gratitude for extending a real helping hand towards the various beneficial community-needed development projects of our school . We have been trying our level best to serve the educational needs of the tribal children as well as those lying below the poverty line with our very limited resources. In our endeavour to promote all these your help has been immense and incalculable in. every way. We also greatly and gratefully acknowledge the services rendered by Mr. Anatoly Kitayevich a member of Friends of Refugees of Eastern Europe Society during his visit to this place and his period of stay from 27th September to 24th October 2009. Many people belonging to different walks of life came to meet him. They were highly impressed and benefited from his treatment through Acupuncture, Naturopathy and Massage. We extend our sincere and heartfelt thanks to him as well as to the sponsoring Australian Tibetan Society for the precious helpful services rendered by the said practioner during the entire period of his stay here. We would very much like to be favoured with such gestures in future as well. Wishing you success with your new project Thank you Very Much Yours Sincerely Sonam Lhundup Lama General Director HBC School

Moriah College Parent Dear FREE, You are wonderful! Unfortunately, our local council is dysfunctional. It is split 6 against 6 like the whole country, minority government. Some councillors, no names mentioned, are real morons. I have no idea how people vote for them; others treat council like family business – husband & wife team politicians. We at Moriah asked the council to install a pedestrian crossing near the gate that kids were using, so this councillor objected on basis that the original DA showed the gate would only be used in emergencies. Can you believe this?? I feel sorry for you guys! Let’s hope that state government will be more understanding. My advice to you – don’t support political parties; support people who are compassionate and understanding. Support your friends who are loyal to you. You have the numbers – use them. The majority of the Jewish community supports your project. Wishing you all the best. As for the council – you have social responsibility towards this group. They suffered enough under the Tsarist regime, then under Bolsheviks’ oppression, German fascist occupation, ghettoes and concentration camps, Soviet Communist era prosecution – when most of them became Refuseniks, and today you are trying to refuse their right to build their new home. Did they ask you for money? Did they ask you for free land? The only thing they are asking for is a stroke of pen on the paper. Are you going to make them Refuseniks again?! Don’t you dare.

Dear councillors, I hope you visit this page so that you can see the overwhelming support from so many of us, I can see many of my friends have taken the time to write on this blog too, we are after all the voices of a real and strong community that deserves respect and honor. I personally salute the developers of this project, they are actually friends of mine so i know them not only as developers but as real community men that belong to my community and support my world renowned respected Rabbi, Rabbi Ulman of course. I must tell you the truth, they are as devoted to FREE as you are to the seat in council. and FREE is their priority. Respect them for that, and respect them for the amount of financial risk they have gone through with developing bondi and surrounding areas. that is something that bothers me a whole lot, they way all of a sudden developers are evil???? they are at the forefront of the future of our community. Enough said. FREE stay strong, hashem will stand along side you. and we will win. and only then council will see how they have won as well. A real person ;) Igor M;revdov

Councillors, You have my full support to go ahead with the application for rezoning 105 wellington street, its the right thing to do for the people of Waverley, you have the power to make the community respect and admire you for your great work and courage. Stand tall and proud of yourselves as you make this project happen. I hope you can all support each-other on this, thats what friends do, especially when we are talking about positive construction sites. Good luck.

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Dear Councillors, I urgently request of council to support the rezoning of the tennis courts on wellington street in Bondi, please consider the need and obligation there is for my children to roam the hallways of a community center rather then the streets, I as a father am very concerned about the delay to this vital project. Honestly speaking, I am in shock to the restraint by councillors to this application, you as elected politicians MUST do the right thing, you must look 50 years ahead, you must be apart of something that will be a positive structure and base in Bondi for education and social development. Open space is nice but not vital to the growth of the community. The talmud says “who is a wise man? one that sees the future”. Thank you. Alex. K.

Councillors, With the help of G-D, you will be enlightened and merit to visualize the true results of this campaign, our father in heaven works in mysterious ways to pull his agendas forward, oh how lucky you are to vbe seated in the thrown of honor and kingship, with the powers to decide who shal play tennis or who shall be fed. FREE is a tremendous organization that will succeed, the only reason for the is long delay is the kindness of the almighty allowing you time to be a part of his plan. May the almighty destroy all evil intentions and thoughts that could G-D forbid delay this holy plan. With the highest respect Boruch

Viva FREE, about time someone starts to change the face of bondi, excuse me but I LOVE BONDI but its a disgrace, its a mess, we sure do welcome tourist, however they can act like animals too, the shouting at night, the drinking in the streets, the late night parties, the filth they leave behind and as hard as it is to put this in writing but it needs to be said, the pissing in the streets, and its gets worse..... FREE people are respected middle/upper class people that bring class and upscale life to bondi. FREE all i can say is bring it on and do it NOW. residents lets clean up our streets from the scum that treat our home like trash.

I'm not russian i'm hungarian, but i speak and talk russian, i love rebe ulman, i love free, i hope our center will come soon. real man i am, and councel is real too so it means they shuld listen to us.

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ADDRESS BY RUVIEN MORRISON, DIRECTOR FRIENDS OF REFUGEES OF EASTERN EUROPE TO WAVERLEY COUNCIL !9 OCTOBER 2010 I wish to thank Councillor Wakefield for raising the issue of community space needs in Waverley. In particular, Councillor Wakefield mentioned FREE in his motion. I would like to clarify the requirements of our community. We need our own home, which we will happily share with others. We want to be a gracious host rather than a grateful guest. As our sages teach us - "it is more blessed to give than to receive". They also teach that - "a person can best reach his full potential at his own table, under his own roof". And our life experience in a communist country taught us that - "one must first have something before one can share it". I wish to announce to the Mayor and esteemed Councillors that we engaged the tennis court operator and tennis player community in consultation. We conveyed to them our needs and proposed plans. The tennis community understood our needs and we now have full support of both the tennis court operators and majority of tennis players. In return, FREE also understood their needs and we are using our best endeavours to support them. Amongst other things, FREE is cooperating and collaborating with Bondi Tennis Centre to ensure their longevity. I wish to extend my invitation to Councillors to visit our existing community centre at 25 O'Brien Street, Bondi, next Tuesday 26 October between 11am and 1pm. Members of our community - most are residents of Eastern Suburbs - will be present to listen to the Council's concerns about our proposal for the new centre. You will also have the opportunity to witness first-hand the conditions in which we currently operate. I wish to bring to your attention the significant contribution to Australian society that Russian Jewry has made over the decades and continues to make: 1. In about 1880, Simcha Myer Baevski, started Myer stores and the Sidney Myer Foundation. Upon his death, he left 10% of his significant estate to the community. His funeral was attended by about 100,000 people. 2. Sir Isaac Isaacs the first Australian born Governor-General, who spoke fluent Russian. 3. Sir John Monash, who was Head of the Australian Army during the First World War 4. Sir Zelman Cowan, was Australia's 19th Governor-General, grandson of and father to Lubavicher rabbis. 5. Mr Jack Shaw, built the Bondi Astra hotel in Campbell Parade, a greatly appreciated social asset to Bondi for over 60 years. A very relevant piece of history.

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FREE created on its web site - www.free.org.au - a page for people to express their opinions regarding proposed rezoning. Just click “PROJECT PETITION” from the home page.

Dear All, Streetcorner is seeking community comment on Waverley Council's consultation on whether rates should be increased by 70 - 120 % over the next 7 years to fund either current service levels or expand services, so for example say you pay $800 in rates now, you would pay $1,360 in seven years, if you want current service levels or $1,760 if you want expanded services. In total there is a $124 million shortfall to cover current services and there would be a $224 million shortfall if you want to increase services. Are you happy to fund these shortfalls from rate increases (and thereby rent increases)? Or would you prefer Council to look at other options? Currently there has been little feedback on Council's website, do you think that is because people don't care? Are in favour? Feel powerless? Or don't understand? If you are interested in this topic, probably the biggest financial issue in Waverley for 10 years, you might also wish to read http://www.streetcorner.com.au/news/show... We welcome all feedback and thoughts, Regards, Streetcorner, YOUR voice in the community

Dear All, I should also explain that the reason this article isn't appearing in the most commented list on our Eastern Suburbs site is because it was orginally posted in Western Sydney but we copied it across to East as well and is therefore appearing on the list there. I hope that makes sense. Kind regards Streetcorner, YOUR voice in the community

Dear All, Streetcorner has just published an article following last nights Council meeting. We are looking for community comment on the proposal by Sally Betts that FREE explores sale of the Wellington Street site and leases Council land to build a community centre. Do you support this idea? All views and opinions welcome. We've published an article (link is here) http://www.streetcorner.com.au/news/show... but would like to insert some community feedback on the idea. Anyone at last night's meeting is also welcome to publish a report on what happened on Streetcorner. I'm sure the community would be very interested to hear what happened first-hand. Kind regards Streetcorner YOUR voice in the community

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Have i missed something Tennis courts and open space are important to all "local comunities". To the best of my knowledge FREE community centres exist in few if any other Council regions. So if finance is an issue, why wouldn't you buy and build in an area which wasn't as expensive as Waverley where there IS sufficent open space already?

Streetcorner has published an article on the community activism surrounding F.R.E.E's proposal to rezone the Wellington Street site, all comments and feedback welcome - "Bondi tennis court battle hots up with grassroots activists on both side of the net" http://www.streetcorner.com.au/news/show... Kind regards Streetcorner, YOUR voice in the community

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Question - does F.R.E.E. only provide it's wonderful services to Jewish people?

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To : Penster I am not going to try deny the fact that FREE focus to serve its own community needs first , but at the same time never refuses to assist anyone who ask for help , no matter what their affiliation or life style is , we do not discriminate . The reason why we focusing on our own community needs first, because, no one else cares – if don’t help ourselves no one will ! And in order to help someone or to share something you have to have something to share. Analogy to that will be – stewardess instruction before the plain takes of – regarding oxygen mask in case of emergency “ First you help yourself , and then others “ . So the answer to your Question is: yes we do provide service to other communities .

FREE, what services do you provide to non-Jewish members of the community? How many people who are not Jewish do you assist each year? Can we be use your community centre if we are not Jewish or is it a religious building? Do you have a membership fee?

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Simple analogy – Hakoh club was a Jewish club , but all Bondi communities regardless of their affiliation used its space , the main reason why we need such a large building is to provide facility to all communities regardless if they Jewish or not , black or white & etc,we have no membership fee.The Building is communal Centre , some space will used to conduct religious services - it is not religious building.

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Wasn't the Hakoah Club meant to have community facilities after the rebuild??? What will FREE do if they cannot rezone the Wellington St site, is there another way? Understand there is a council meeting about it this week, perhaps the issue will be resolved then.

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Penster I am not sure what you referring to regarding Hakoh communal facility ? Hakoh sold its Hall street property , to developer group Toga – to build service apartments , and shop fronts . Council fail to negotiate with Toga on provision of Communal space , if I understood correctly council town planers , was taking to long , and Councillors was afraid to make the right decision , so the Toga took its case to State Government , and Council and community has lost – not the first time , council still spending a large amount of our money fighting developers – and its keep on losing the cases , I wonder is anyone knows how much money council has spent on courts ? The council meeting this Tuesday , its already decided refuse to support rezoning application. Regarding what FREE will do with the property after refusal - It remains to be see – it will depend what will Council offer to FREE after the meeting.

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Thanks for that. I was a member of the Hakoah Club, it was downright shabby but still a good club, something good for the area and would have rejoined any club that was replaced there. I thought that part of the deal of the sale of Hakoah was providing community club facilities which is much needed there because Mr Ervin Vidor is the head of Toga and he's also deeply connected with FREE or is the owner of the Wellington St tennis court site? Sorry, might have my wires crossed here and thanks for responding!

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I am sorry to say but you got your wire cross, regarding the ownership of 105 Wellington Street . FREE which non-profit – benevolent society owns the site today , Mr Ervin Vidor has never own or lease the site , I personally never met the guy ( I wish I did ) – is not connected to FREE in any way ( I wish he was ). We as the community, all miss out on opportunity to have communal space on Hall street , I blame the council – the developers have the own agenda - , they there to make money and maximize their income for their shareholders – it is up to Council who supposably represent community interest to get the best deal ,out of the developers. The Council was well advised & aware of the options that Toga had . instead of properly negotiating positive outcome they fail.

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Thanks for clearing that up! Are FREE and the Benevolent Society working together and supporting each other in their respective Wellington St developments, a lot of people objected to that? It would seem that the 2 groups have a long history of worthy community achievement. Sorry for all the questions, I have become quite interested in this.

Waverley Council voted on Tuesday night to reject F.R.E.E's application for rezoning. It was not unexpected news given the recommendation of Council officers for the rezoning to be declined. A previous application for rezoning of the site by Maccabi Tennis Club had also been declined and Mayor Betts said that rezoning decisions should not depend on who owned the land. Councillor Wakefield moved an amendment to the motion that was accepted which aimed to set a timetable for Council to present an offer of suitable Council land on which a F.R.E.E. community centre could be built. All Councillors acknowledged the important community work undertaken by F.R.E.E and made clear that the decision did not relate in any way to the organisations standing in the community. What do you think of the Council's decision? What should happen next?

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Waverley council wanted the former Hakoah Club site now owned by Toga to have a substantial community space for the enjoyment of Hakoah Club members. It was the NSW state government not council which approved the Toga development - at Toga's request - with minimal community rooms. There is an opportunity for FREE to negotiate with Toga for space in their big new building on the former Hakoah site to provide first class facilities for its membership - which would also support former Hakoah club members. Alternatively perhaps FREE could work with the Benevolent Society which has a beautiful old house on its site with community space.

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Good and logical ideas

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Have to say I'm very surprised that the Toga owners, some (or all?) of whom are Jewish did not cater for the F.R.E.E. organisation and members. Surely there would be a significant crossover of Hakoah and F.R.E.E. members? I greatly admire the cohesiveness of the Jewish community and many groups could take a leaf out of their book. Did F.R.E.E. and Toga not have an agreement or discussion about this??? Surely Toga Group are not all about money???

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