I know of these people and they are scammers. We operate in the PABX and telecommunications space and would never conduct business this way. In fact we often clean up a lot of their mess for many clients.

we have been done as well can someone help us with what to do thank you

I have been caught up with this scam and am trying to get out of this as I am leaving my business due to cancer. The guy who turned up to talk to the people who are taking over the business told me that Quikfund can take my house over as I have signed a 5 year contract, which the person at Quikfund also repeated this on the phone to me. The new people dont want this mess and I dont know what to do as Axiom tell me that I have to keep paying the 550.00 per month and the new people said this is not on. please advise what I can do anyone?

To Thunder, I ask for a payout figure too and they come back to us and said we need to payout $35000.00 for the value about $5000.00, I ask them to give me the cost of each item and they did say that the contract is that you much pay the 550/month so we can not give you the cost of the each item.

Yes we got caught in September 08 & talked to solicitors, telco ombudsman etc but couldn't get any answers. We know we can change Telco's but it's the finance people Quickfund that is the hitch. How come they are not answerable to Dept of Fair Trading for signing up customers to pay $27,720 for equipment that can be bought retail for approx $3,500? As you say, this amount was supposed to come off the telephone bill so that if our calls were $462 per month then we got a credit for this amount - but it didn't eventuate. So glad I saw your web page to-day. Can you keep me informed or tell me what I can do to get rid of these obnoxious people. Regards Jan Black

What a scam . I got caught with stuff I did not want and tried to send it back but they would not accept it. It turns out that the salesman altered the contract as my copy is different to the original. I was told there must have been a problem with the contract paper.I might be green but I'm not a cabbage!.Taipan

It is a big scam. We got caught out by AXis Telecommunications. We did not realise we were signing with another 3rd party for the equipment. We were told that at the end of the contract we could purchase the equipment for $1.10.Axis went bankrupt and we were tod that the finance company EFS does not honour the $1.10 but back of the equipment and that we would have to pay for the equipment. What happens if i cancel my direct debit with EFS and dont return the equipment?

We have been caught in this trap too and have brought lots of our friends along for the ride. I thought I was smarter than this.

Hi all, I am 3 years into a contract with quickfund through a small business I used to run. I remember the salesperson (scum) who did me over saying “my father raised me not to tell a lie”. Can’t believe I went for that! Those words still wake me at night, as this still impacts on my family and marriage. It’s the personal guarantor issue which worries me. If there is any action I may assist or benefit from I will keep in touch with Greg from 'telco-finance-scams'

On the ABC website, there is also a preview of the report Here is the link: http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2... The program airs on Monday 1st November at 8.30pm

We have a contract with Clear Telecom. They sent us a stack of mobile phones and a huge printing machine all of which are still in the boxes. I contacted them and told them we didn't want all this stuff. They told me they are a free gift and we may as well keep them. We begged them to take them back because they are just taking up space and we don't want them. They said we can sell them or do whatever we want but they do not want them back - now I know why.

we got plasmas and other now outdated "gifts" when we signed up for a business phone system 3 years ago. i should have heeded the "if its too good to be true" line ive heard so many times, now we are paying $550 a month plus just under $200 for phone calls which no one can explain when we ring axsiom or clear telecoms or whoever they are.

Just watching this on 4 stories (2/11/10). Are these people for real, what suckers? Fair enough if forms were completed fraudently, but 'free tv' with your phone? Someone has to pay for that? Money does not grow on trees! To the last comment - yes, there is no such things as a free lunch!

iF you have been ripped by these scammers contact the ACCC and your local member of govt then send an email to : info@telco-finance-scams.com

I guess for me there are 2 stories here. The first is about the people who have been ripped off, and the story should be told and I congratulate 4 Corners for that. The second is why the ACCC is not pursuing Macquarie, Fresh Telecoms and all the companies, and their directors, who no longer providing call credits. I guess the Chairman of the ACCC can't prosecute a company he was once a director of. After the fiasco with his investment in DFO he can't have his blind trust lose anymore money.

Thunder I have been watching the ACCC case for a while and understand the Trade Practices Act very well. From a technical perspective it is very interesting. I can assure you of one thing the ACCC has a top notch legal team. Solicitors are Corrs Chambers Westgarth, check their website, same building as the Premier. Lead barrister, Christine Adamson SC, she is the one of the leading silks in the country. The problem with the case is that the ACCC went after the wrong people. The transcripts show this. Hakim's companies's are honouring their deals with customers. The ACCC acknowledges this. The reason the ACCC is having trouble is because they are chasing him personally, through the charade of the 28 in total but all he did was buy a group of companies with a view to listing them all in the UK. You saw the story, he was in the UK, but his companies are still honoring the deals. Customers are still getting credits. Customers of Forte Connect, Emerald, Truscom and Fresh, to name a few are not. From a legal strategy perspective if the ACCC wanted to it could pursue the counterparties in those deals like Fresh and Macquarie for third line forcing. By using the precedent in ACCC vs. IMB Australia FCA 402, 2002 where Justice Drummond found that where 2 contracts sold as a bundle constitute a single package and thus cannot be third line forcing. What the ACCC could have done is sued Macquarie/Fresh for third line forcing as they are responsible for a bundle where one half was not being fulfilled. Fresh was in liquidation but they can ask the court for leave to proceed againgt Fresh. This would have been easy to get, these things happen all the time. They could have chased Ford to. He would have cut a deal so fast your head would spin. They could have used the ASIC revenue recognition case against NTG to support this view. That came about because NTG used to account for them as 2 unrelated contracts but this changed it to a package. The court would have heard it quickly because of Fresh being in liquidation and Ford's deal and do you know what would have happened? Same as ACCC vs. Bill Express. The finance contracts would have been declared void by the court and customer's can stop paying rent. Justice would have been served. Actually its not too late. The ACCC could actually start this case tomorrow against all the companies that went belly up. If it wants to. If they are really interested in protecting the Australian consumer. For me the ACCC is like a surgeon with 2 patients, 1 has a cut leg, the other has lost the leg in an accident and is bleeding out. What do you do? I would help the one with the lost leg, stop the bleeding and save the patient. Then put a band aid on the other. What does the ACCC do? Let the patient bleed out. That's what's happening here. Small businesses paying rent for equipment AND paying for calls they should be getting credits for and slowly bleeding to death. Graeme Samuel why don't you Macquarie and Fresh Telecoms for third line forcing and have the finance contract declared void because it is one element of a package where the other half is no longer provided.

Thank you Smithers and Thunder for your comments. It can be frustrating for the legal point of view, but what we also have, we,us, as Consumers, Individuals, People, we have the power to speak up and spread this as much as we can, get informed, let also other people know and become more responsible consumers. In the end what goes around comes around. These people can go after all the money they want, but it's "dirty" money if they were aware that those contracts and the whole system was deliberately set up to mislead and let Small Businesses believe it was a good deal (which if done in the proper way in some case it can be) but intentionally omitting that: 1) we were financed (the representative pointed out more than one time the equipment was free, we even got free gifts such as gift vouchers to spend!- and anyway if we were made aware we had to finance the equipment, lots of small businesses have already long business relationships with their own finance/leasing companies for their equipments!) 2) we were binded to the finance contract for 5 years while the reresentative assured us that at any time we could walk away from our contract with no penalty, simply returning the equipment and loosing the call credits.. If that is not misleading and misrepresenting I don't know what it is? Xmas hung-over?

Hi Guys, Yes I am another one who has been and still is being stung by Quickfund, My story is the same as the rest, Word for Word. My business has just gone into "INSOLVENCY" along with myself, This was not caused by Quickfund but I did the correct thing and wrote to them to advise that I would not be able to pay them a thing, there reply was that regardless of my problem I still owe them $40,000 plus for $5,000 worth of goods and they keep saying it is in my interest to make them an offer. It would appear that they do not understand the word INSOLVENCY. We cannot let them win.

Hi All, Yep another who has been stung - I am definatley no lawyer but with the contracts we have all signed with these guys - how many of you acutally saw the terms and conditions or even every page of the contract - and how many of your contracts have page numbers? I have a copy of my contract and there are several pages of terms and conditions that have not been viewed by me. They certainly haven't been signed - I have signed many documents in my time and usually have to initial each page to make them legal.... I didn't see the front or back page and I couldn't have reasonably known that I didn't see all pages as there are no page numbers?? I do realise I am clutching at straws but hey - anything to get out of these criminal contracts. Does anyone have any ideas on this?

Hi everyone, This issue is not just confined to Australia, i have a small business in the UK and we have be stitched up by these con-men too, please let me know if there is anything we can do, there is a slight twist to the story over here as they are no longer Clear communications but Switch Telecoms? Cheers from the UK

I note on Friday the appeal of the ACCC against EFS and CIT was dismissed with the ACCC having to pay the costs of EFS and CIT. This means unless the ACCC appeals to the High Court the financiers have been summarily dismissed from the ACCC proceedings, or in essence found not guilty.

Re sale of my business. I to are in the scam. I am trying to sell my business and the new owner does not want any part of this scam.What do i do now? My contract has a pay out figure of $3500 but they are chasing $28000. My form 11963 has pay out figure $3500. This is very missleading.

"The owner of Clear Telecom is Tony Hakim - he is being taken to court by ACCC. (He also owns Quikfund.) If you are caught up with clear telecom - ACCC have announced that you can break your contract with Clear Telecom without any legal ramifications. " I want to know i have sigtned up contract with cleartelecom for 5 yrs and still a 2 years left, if i break the contreact,should i have to pay OFF the rest?the money we pay for the finance is the majority, should we stop paying our phone bill?

We are wrapped up with this mob as well. I rang Clear Telecoms for a payout and they quoted a ridiculous amount. I rang the telstra businesss call centre and said that they have got people out of Clear Telecoms contracts be referring them to the Telcommunications Ombudsman. I have rung Quikfund and asked them why we are paying up to $60K over 5 years for equipment that wouldn't be worth more than 10K. They refused to give me a breakup of the equipmebnt amount and said that they couldn't do anything. The salesman at the time was very vague when we signed and confused me with all this talk and plans and credit, and he made the Quikfund cost and the Clear Telecoms plan cost out to be the same thing. I am lodging a complaint with the QLd Office of Fair Trading for all the good it will do Any other suggestions anybody?

Wow! Like many of you I also signed a 5 year contract which is costing me about $2,000 per month and I have just over 2 years left. It is most certainly a scam and for a smart business operator, I can't believe I feel for it. I do find it surprising that no lawyer in this country has taken this on. The manner in which we were co-erced to sign into the deal was at the very least misleading. I went to a lawyer but he didn't know where to start.

Have reached the end of contract only to find that the $1.10 payout figure and signed proposal endorsing ownership will not be honoured by Quikfund.Instead i can enter into a new contract for 12 or 24 months at the same rate to achieve ownership. Quikfund say the sales person from Fusion(now gone under) not their representative and the document not theirs, yet this same person presented their contract and witnessed us signing up.Quikfund also saying they have no copy of the proposal and consequently issued a rental agreement instead of a Lease agreement with a zero residual. Any suggestions? Frustrated!

yes we also have been scammed by these horible people we have had to close our business due to this also happening to us.

Like george I have also come to the end of my contract and quickfund are refusing to honour the $1.10 deal.I put my complaint to the onbusman who advised me to make the complaint to quickfund first and if not resolved they will take it further,however quikfund to date are ignoring my complaint and not even aknowledged my emails, there is still 15 days for them to respond till onbudsman can do anything

Hi there, We too have been scammed!!! We signed up with axsiom in june 09. When we spoke to Vikas Kaushal there rep he told us we would pay no more than $792.00 per month for all of our phone bills including mobile, home, business etc. Even though we explained to him our business is seasonal and more calls are make from these phones in summer!!! Vikas said no dont worrie about it we have set everything up so that you will only ever pay $792.00 a month. This was true for a while then all of a sudden the bills started coming through as high as $1700.00 dollars. We have made a lot of complaints and with no result. We have even told them we want out of the contract and we where told we would have to pay them 40k!!!! Sorry but to get out of this contract for a small business is way over our financial means!!!! On numerous time we have contacted them and like i said before no result!!! Can someone please tell me how I can get out of this situation as it is not what it was ment to be!!! I have even now gone as far as stopping there direct debit as I am not happy with this company!!! I have contacted quickfund and they basically say we have to pay 40k What do I do???? I have sent a email through to the tio and i am waiting for a reply!

This is what I was sent after a call about the costings of our phone bill??? Hi Mathew, Clear Telecoms is your telephone service provider and what we will bill you for encompasses the billing and provisioning of your telephone services. What you are charged by Clear Telecoms, per month, is based on your call usage from your telephone lines, as well as line rental and associated charges. As your call usage differs each month, therefore the charges you incur will differ every month as well, and Clear Telecoms bills you accordingly after applying a maximum of $720.00 (ex GST) credit to eligible (local, national, international and calls made to mobiles) calls. Because of this your invoice is rarely the same amount each month. Please find attached, your telephone agreement, for your convenience. Kind Regards Moana Turua Customer Service Officer This is how they are trying to get out of ripping honest people off!!!!

I am a solicitor and i have also been scammed by these evil company called NEXGEN they supplied me with refurbished 2nd hand equipment even though I signed up to recieve brand new equipment. I didnt catch on until i came back from a holiday as the installation was done during the time i was overseas. I googled NEXTGEN and to my surprise the same people all worked for Link Solutions and Axis Telecoms so I would suggest people be careful of that mob

BUNCH OF SCAMMERS, DON'T TRUST THEM

I signed a BCC 5 yr lease for a phone system, financed by AIF, and Clear Telecoms gave us $250 per month credits. This has been happening OK, but the lease expires in September, and I now find after 5 yrs of payments I will own nothing, as it went thru as a rental. AIF who I understand are in receivership want $1300 payout figure (down from $3500 after some heated negotiation) so I can take ownership of the system. Yesterday Clear Telecoms rang, full of sympathy and understanding and want to provide more equipment at great rates to help me out. I am curious - are they still being prosecuted? Also, what is the legal situation with the payout & AIF in receievership? Ann

To everyone that has been scammed by these horrible viscous blood sucking people. We closed our bank account 6 months ago so they could not take anymore money from us. We have already paid $18000 for the equipment and we still had $24000 left to pay. We have written to them telling we are not paying any more and they can come and pick up the equipment. We have received two demand letters that I have not replied to. I still have the equipment.

Can anyone out there tell me the relationship between quickfund and clear telecom as I am now being chased for a certain amount of money in which they tell me is outstanding? I have asked them to stop direct debiting my account for the amount set and they say they have! Yet quickfund is still removing the money? So where do i stand??? As i am being told that the contract is with quickfund and it has nothing to do with them? So do i now owe an absorbent amount of money to them as well?

Is M2 Communications a reputable firm?

Can anyone out there tell me the relationship between quickfund and clear telecom as I am now being chased for a certain amount of money in which they tell me is outstanding? I have asked them to stop direct debiting my account for the amount set and they say they have! Yet quickfund is still removing the money? So where do i stand??? As i am being told that the contract is with quickfund and it has nothing to do with them? So do i now owe an absorbent amount of money to them as well?

Whats the best way to get out of this contract, the contract is up in August and we now have to return the equipment by hand to Melbourne (We are on the Gold Goast) I'm sure even if we do that wont be the end of it. Anyone else returned the equipment? What a scam this compamy is.

They did not explain it very clear I am only a small business. Can some one please contact me I would like to be involved in the fight against them

My company has also been scammed by Axis Telecoms, signed me up for some equipment finance and in return they give you cheap phone calls, biggest scam ever. we are paying $786 a month for 5 years $47,160.00 in total, they are telling me there is no option to buy the equipment at the end of the contract. I would also like to be involved in the fight against this scam. i just had a guy from the company that came into see me saying the only way out of it is to sign up for another contract, which yet again is a scam, could someone please help me and see if i can get out of it! i have 8 months of the contract left and they are telling me the payout figure is something like $13,000.00

we have stopped the direct debit comming out of our account. Quick Fund keep calling to talk to the boss, when i take a msg for the boss to call them back they give me a phone number....which is a fax number. Not my problem any more, ive had enough of being scammed......I have also lodged a complaint with the ACCC

whom do we speak to about the scam from quickfund,and i believe cleartelecom and axsiom are involved too. my brief investigations have revealed that we can do something regarding cleartelecom [thank goodness], although in reading comments about quickfund it seems a battle is going to erupt.surely these people have some sort of honesty left in them. "this about the nicest thing i can write about them", as you can now see and after coming out of the mist, it certainly not roses growing, but thorns ?i"ll be doing the same as every one else talking to my m.p and any othergovt dept involved in small business, we need to bring down pressure on these rogues and make them pay .

We are yet another victim of this Clear Telecoms/Quikfund Scam. Quikfund have now lodged a default notice on our Credit Reference without any notice to ourselves and now we can't get any credit whatsoever - they have lodged a default notice because they can't go to Court because their scam would be revealed so they are attempting to blackmail us through this way. We have been fighting for the last 6 months to have this Default Notice removed - has anyone else had Quikfund lodge a Default Notice? Initially they wanted $37000 to "settle" this matter then $34,000 then offered $12,000 and then lodged a claim for $17,000 + - we have returned the equipment which is only valued at the high end of the scale of $3000 of which we have already paid $4000 + in payments but never got any subsidised phone service as was promised. Quikfund are enforcing the full terms of the contract and I can't believe they were able to do what they have done

We sought legal advice and cancelled our Clear Telecoms account. Our lawyer wrote to Quikfund and said that their contract is unenforceable and told us not to pay them anymore and to send the equipment back, which we did. To date we have had 3 demand letters from Quikfund, the last one saying that Quikfund were about to lodge a CRAA default on us. Our lawyer wrote to them stating that the matter would be referred to the ACCC if they did. He also wrote to the CRAA crowd VEDA advising that Quikfund were using them to basically blackmail us in paying them money we didn't owe them and not to aid them in this. To date, we don't have any CRAA defaults logded. We'll see what happens. I am not giving in to these people.

We spoke with Quikfund again today who advised they don't take "you people" to Court they are just lodging default notices so if that is not plain and simple extortion I don't now what is -I just don't know how these people are able to do what they do - a....holes

I have paid my last payment to quickfund after 60 months. I tried many times to get out of this contract when I realized what I had done but to no avail. I just tried to ring the retailer that sold me this fraud and the phone number no longer works, therefore googled quickfund to find the phone number and found this thread. I have spent $23,000 on this phone system and plazma that is worth roughtly $3000 all up... What a dope.

I actually found their phone number and after speaking with the man on the phonee to confirm that my last payment had been noted he informed me that I had to give 6 months notice to end the contract. I sent a letter in 2008 to this effect but he then informs me that it is a maximum of 9 months notice

This is what i know there is a phone number if it helps im fighting these conmen as well! http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.pht...

Here is another place we may get someone to listen 4 Corners ran a episode on these scams i have just asked for a follow up as its still going on! Find the link below! Regards http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2...

I gave 6 months notice to return our phones to AIF, but they did not issue the invoice for the payout at end of contract as requested. I cancelled the direct debit authority, AIF then sent a default notice for 2 months "arrears" After some discussion a manager agreed to waive the arrears and get the agreed sum invoiced to me within 24hrs. All I got was the agreed sum plus arrears. After several attempts at getting the correct agreed amount I gave up and sent the phones to the address on their letterhead (and in Google) It came back as they had moved. Now they want me to pay the full amount AND send the system back. When I protested they said the system was worth very little to them, but they are chraging me $10.50 a day in arrears. Their latest stance is I owe $1250 in arrears for 90 days, and the original contract was for $314 per month. I bought an identical system to the one they want $1342 for, and it cost me $650. I was prepared to send the system back, but there does not seen to be any advantage. They have a clause that both parties agree to NSW laws and legislation, and I am in QLD. What would you advise?

Qickfund is a scam

We too have been tied up in this scam. We are paying quikfund $825/month. We have asked for a payout (18months left) and they came back with $16000 which is a joke. How can that contract stand. Our contract has no itemized list of equipment of any sort. Why can't I just cancel the direct debit or should I try and negotiate a settlement. I havn't seen any recent info regarding any case against Quikfund. What are my options.

Yes I have been paying AIF since 2007 $330 per month for a phone service but only to find out later it was for finance for the free TV. How do these people sleep at night, they are the scum of the earth. Once they have you they wont let you go. How our government can stand by and let this happen to innocent people is a crime in itself. What is this country coming to when innocent people have no rights. SHAME ON YOU AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT

I have just consulted with a Debt Collection Agency who have had discussions with the Adjudicator from the Tribunal (in Qld is QCAT) on my behalf and said we could definately lodge a claim for the monies paid to Quikfund and any costs in returning the products as well as damages plus an Order to remove all default notices from our Credit Files. As long as it it under $10,000 for approx $450.00 and claims over $10,000 would cost aprox $850. This is great news - could take anything up to 6 months but hey the wait would be very worth it. The QCAT Adjudicator told them they had quite a few of this claims lodged in the last 6 months - shame it has to come to this but these guys don't have a let to stand on. They have made no attempt to take us to Court because they know they would loose. So people my advices is to consult a Debt Collection Agency or Legal Person and get this Claim lodged now

We are nearing the end of our contract and have given Quikfund the intimation of termination. They want us to pay 3 months rent to keep the equipment. Has anyone else been given a similar sort of figure ? Are the above posts old or is some action still going on ? My post has been made on the 22nd of Feb 2012.

This is still going on because we are going before the CTTT next week and we are refusing everything they say and are asking for a refund of the money and compensation. Thank goodness for this website and if it wasn't for Thunder I do not know where we would be. Wish us luck. We are going to get these dirty scoundrals eventually if we all keep rallying and submitting your claims to the CTTT we should come through it. It was great to hear Killilajo comments above it gives us all hope.

Yes I also have lodged my claim with CTTT. I wish kj all the best of luck for the hearing. Keep everybody informed on how you go.

Thanks Kullillajo. I am keen to fight Quikfund on my contract. Can you tell me what claim is made with QCAT in Qld ?

Hi Ralph - we had our Debt Collection Agency (Legal Source from North Lakes) complete and lodge the QCAT Application on our behalf which cost us $455 and was for all the monies we paid and $5000 damages plus an order for the removal of the Default Notice - as this was under $10,000 it was $455 - if it is over $10,000 then the cost would have been approx $800 but well worth the money spent as they do all the form completion and lodgement with the Tribunal. They were told by the Arbitrator that it can take up to 6 months but a short price to pay - success is not guaranteed but certainly in a better position than not doing anything and we are confident - all we want is the Default Notice removed. Let me know if you want further info - good luck

Last year we submitted a claim to the CTTT. We had a first meeting with Quickfund, Clear Telecoms and we refused what they said. We were asking for a refund from Quickfund, Clear Telecoms for misleading and desceptive business. We had another meeting that we could not make and we rang the CTTT to advise we were unable to make the second interview, but unfortunately the message did not reach the right person and the case was dismissed. Two days later we received a letter saying Quickfund was taking us to the local court. Our solicitor advised to submit another claim to the CTTT immediately and we did ($290. each time). We were sent notices of a meeting early this year at the CTTT, we turned up at the meeting and they did not show. Another meeting was scheduled with the CTTT and again this year they did not show up. In the two days we submitted our second claim to the CTTT, Quickfund had submitted their claim to the local court against us. We are now going through the local court in syd and the Registra at the CTTT hinted we should have a good case against Quickfund. Please submit your case to the CTTT or Debt Collector as you could end up in court like us. If we win they will be paying for everything. I will keep you informed of how we go as we have not received a date to go to court. good luck to everyone, we will get these horrible people eventually and it will be all worth it in the long run.

what happens to our phone lones and mobiles if we stop payment,cheers

We have also been done by this mob and although we have no telephone contract with them anymore they are still taking $396 out fo my account every month.They are telling me this is a fee for me efpos machine.My bank has informed me that this is not right and I'm now thinking i should arrange for the payments to stop.Is this a good idea or are they going to sting me with late payment fees or some other crap?

We have submitted our claim to the QCAT (Qld Tribunal) and we have been advised they are setting up a Task Force due to the number of claims being lodged against these a...holes and hopefully they will make a decision soon in our favour. Recommend to everyone to contact a Debt Collection Agency and get a claim lodged against them straight away

I am claiming back $23,100 in ''Rental'' of my free plasma and phone system after 60 monthly payments of $385. I stopped payments when the 60th payment went through and lodged my claim with VCAT. We had our prehearing last week and Quikfund asked for a phone confrence which was accepted by the tribunal. When the Tribunal attempted to call them they were not contactable. Another date has been set of which they have been ordered to appear in person. If they donot appear this time I will be asking for the Tribunal to make an order in their absense. I've had a gutfull of these scum. Good luck to all. Drapes

just wondering how you went with vcat my contract is up in oct and I would like nothing more than to challenge these scum to some sort of justice you didnt mention dates is your case soon ? cathy

Hi Cathy, Our next date is 17.05.12. I imagine they will not show up again and it will go straight to a hearing. They are so far doing everything as expected, not showing up and sending paperwork to incorrect address' Drapes

Thx Drapes I received an email today stating that transfer of ownership of the goods ( my so called free goods )will be sent to me after my last payment. What a joke as this had always been promised to me anyway these people have a nerve !!! Please keep us in the loop good luck for the 17th Cathy

In QCAT today with Technology leasing first mediation hearing. Thanks to Queensland Communication Company 7 years ago when first signed, Technology leasing have gone from asking 21K to an acceptance of 5k to settle. I declined that offer and will fight them in a court hearing. If anyone has beaten these companies would be eager to discuss

Hi Drapes Hope all went well for you today did they bother to turn up? Cathy

Hi Cathy, Quikfund was not able to attend in person so a phone confrence was held. Nothing settled yet. Make sure you give notice in writing (I gave verbal notice) 6 months before the end of your term, this is a major hurdle that you can avoid. Just part of an argument you dont need. Cheers Drapes

We lodged complaint against AIF with the CTTT settled with AIF. So pleased it is all over. Get your form in as soon as possible to the CTTT when a contract is over 3yrs old things are a little out of there hands.

Thx Drapes sorry to hear of your hurdle. I have already given my 6 months notice and received a confirmation email from their side.Will keep in contact as my end of contract draws near only 4 months to go !!!! Cathy

i am also stuck with quickfund and they seem to be so protected and sealed contracts that cant be broken, how did this happen and we all got stuck with 5 yr contracts.... ACCC can see that they have scamed so many people for lots of money and they continue to do so. all their brother/sister companies that did scam have liquidated and this finance company standing laughing at everyone and now those brother/sister companies are starting up again.... SO WHO DO WE STAY AWAY FROM, as their is mixed messages amongst these phone companies.... I HAVE TO RENEW NOW AFTER 5 YEARS AND HATE THEM ALL.... and everyone is approaching me again to sign up for 3-5 yrs again... WHAT DO WE DO???

HOW DO WE GET INTO THE GROUP CLAIMING COMPENSATION? DO WE NEED TO SEE OUR OWN SOLICITOR, I WAS TOLD THAT WAS WASTE OF TIME AND HUGE EXPENSE TO FIGHT THEM, THE CONTRACTS WE WATER TIGHT AND THEY HAVENT BROKEN ANY RULES... AND THAT THE FINANCE COMPANY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE PHONE SALE COMPANIES, i would definately like to apply for compensation... ACCC just told me to keep any on the case that was already there.

Hi Paula, I know how you feel.... Don't sign up with anyone like this ever again!!! I suggest you go to the website http://www.telco-finance-scams.com/ and email them for advise. Good Luck Drapes

Hi everyone, I thought we were the only ones that had this problem. We were approached on Friday 1/6/12 buy a guy from AXSIOM in regards to taking over this account, line rental, equipment etc. I have calculated that over the last 4 years, QUIKFUND have taken $38,000.00 from my account and it doesn't look like I'll get any of that back. I have lodged a complaint with the ACC, I will be going to VCAT shortly to take it further and have tried numerous amounts of time to get hold of someone at QUIKFUND. No one seems to have a good understanding of what exactly it was that my LATE husband signed up to. Can someone please help to shed some light on what they've done? Thanks much appreciated.

Hi all, I too have been scammed and am in the same position as you all. I was contacted by a rep (Could not understand who he represented)a couple of weeks ago asking if they could come and see me regarding the refinancing and update of the equipment I received five years ago - my contract ends in Nov 2012,(up until now I was under the impression I owned after the five years was up). When we signed up 5 years ago I tried to get out of the contract but because the goods had been delivered to me no one was able to help me, we were specifically told that there would be no residual owing after the 5 years and we would own the equipment outright. I have been ringing a 8290-0200 number all day which no one answers. Can anyone point me in the right direction. Thanks.

i thing this is all ascam by other telcos if you genuinely have aproblem with your finance contratc i can help you can call 0295988885 it will not cost you any money for my help

Hi Brownee the compney that called you it happend to be NEXGEN the only reoson they called the have all your detials they are the same people as axis and link be carfull of this guys we have reproted them to ACCC brownee call me on 0295988885 i be able to assist you

Hi Cathy, Any news at your end? Not having much luck getting it settled here, they know how to play this game as theve done it a hell of alot more than any of us. Cheers Drapes

Hi Drapes as I wrote earlier I emailed with my intent to end my contact before the six month deadline. I received an email with confirmation from there side accepting that my contract will be terminated at the end of my contract and have been advised when my last payment is due. Have you heard anymore from your side ?

Hi Cathy /Drapes If you have genuine concern why not call me I have helped few people on this forum With out any cost As Paula mentioned on her site the finance company hade nothing to do with sales companies I am her to help anyone in genuine need of help

Hi Cathy, please contact me on drape1@hotmail.com Cheers Drapes

Oh my god, I cannot believe what I have just been reading. We have had a contract with clear telecoms and previously link solutions for the past 8 years and we have just signed another contract for another 5 years with Choicecom,Flexirent and Clear Telecoms.Today we received notification that choicecom Pty Ltd is in Liquidation. I spoke to them this morning but by 12 noon they are non contactable. I managed to get onto the sales rep that sold us the system and she said she is now out of a job and cant help us.I have called Flexirent whom the finance is with and they have confirmed that we have the finance through them for the phone system. We have only just had the new phones installed and haven't even sent back the old phone system. We are owed $7700 from Choicecom for the payout of the contract to Quikfund. But now I don't know where we stand.I have tried to call Quikfund and the phones are constantly engaged and the website is closed down. I cannot believe we haven't heard anything about these companies being a scam before we have been in business for 65 years and even though these companies are a scam we haven't had any issues with them up until now.We have always received the credits off our phone bills for the rental agreements without any issues. My main concern is that when we signed up for this new system the rep left us without giving us a copy of the agreement we had signed. she then said she would send me a copy of the agreement straight away but we haven't seen it yet even after many phone calls to them. I have faxed them telling them I am going to cancel the direct debit if I don't hear from them but where do we stand?

I am at a total loss to work all this out. And there is absolutely NO Customer Services so I cant even get any decent answers. Are others having this problem too? I just want to know what I have to do to find out more about this and where I satnd???

Hi Thunder i m not sure where you ar getting you informatin from I did some investigation my self on you I was shocked to find out who you are you should be ashamed of your self to posse As a friendly person willing to help all you are is a vampire trying to suck money out of this people You should just stick to you profession fixing cars and paying you staff You have 2 matters against you in court by not paying for staff You are a good example for helping people He ask you to o to his site and them he get’s you to join and then h asks you to pay fee If any one is requiring hell please call me and i will help you with out any cost

Have ben caught with this scam as well but have only just found this sight. I have been over charged on 4 occasions by these Quikfund. I call it double dipping into my account on no less than 4 Occasions. I tried to contact quick fund regarding this matter several times over the last few months and have had no return of calls. Ausis

immediately put a stop payment on your bank account - that usually gets their attention and then you are in a better position to talk with them

i have just had a call from someone trying to take over my phone account and they informed me that quick fund have shut down their site and asked if i gave notice to terminate my contract and informed me that the directors of quick fund and clear telecoms are family memebers. this information was volenteered to me without me asking, i just said i was not interested at this stage and told not to hassel me about phones. if quickfund owners are reading these posts, it should give them an opportunity not to rip off any other people and should simply on good faith tell existing customers that paid $50,000 for a phone system to keep it, its worth nothing and they want another $3,000 or their old system returned... YOU KNOW!!! the legal system and Dept of Fairtrading are USELESS...... they allow people like this to take advantage of innocent people and get away with it..... THESE PEOPLE ARE LAUGHING AT EVERYONE ONE THAT THEY RIPED OFF.... why isn't Dept of Fair trading reading this?????????? i still say GOOD ON YOU TO GET IT OUT THERE TO THE PUBLIC....

We have a claim in the Qld Tribunal which we are hoping they will issue an Order but they are questioning whether the Tribunal has the jurisdiction to make such Order which is not fair after they take your claim and filing fees!!!! When are these Govts & Law Makers going to grow balls and make these decisions against these scammers - No one seems to have jurisdiction and forget about Ombudsmen - useless as t_ts on a bull!!!

Kullillajo, could you tell me if your case at qcat is close to making a ruling.I am in a case against technology leasing waiting for another hearing date before I have to front court in nsw . Could you please let me know. Thanks 0408162494.

I have been told by Legal Source that because of the amount of claims lodged with QCAT they are now seriously looking at the whole matter and we can only be hopeful and positive and should know soon which they are going to go - if they say they can't then we will have to withdraw our QCAT Claim (with refund of filing fees) and lodge with the local Magistrates Court. QCAT need to grow the balls and make a ruling to set a precedent so we can all be able to get on with things. Quikfund put a claim on our Credit File and it will only take an Order for it to be removed - the b..stards have been holding us to ransome for too long

Thanks . I was hoping that the recent federal court case technology leasing vs lennmar and the outcome from that that a precedent should be passed down through the local courts and tribunals. It's true they have not got the nuts to stand up and do what is right by the consumer. I I will keep posted to see what your qcat decision goes.

What a load of crock!!! I am sick of these people feeling they can intimidate and ruin good people's lives. When we rang Quikfund and asked why, if we legitimately owned them the alleged amount of $17,000++, why aren't they taking PROPER legal action to recover such money and their response was "we don't have to take people like you to court we can just screw you by lodging default on Credit Reference which will stay with you forever" So they have effectively screwed us and we are going to do whatever we can to get justice QUIKFUND - CLEAR TELECOMS - QLD COMMUNICATIONS - TONY HASKIM YOU CAN ALL ROT IN HELL!!!! THUNDER - do NOT let these pr.cks intimidate you - we are with you I can assure you!!!!

My company has also been caught in quickfund mire and want to dispute. Can anyone advise what QCAT claim form has to be submitted and what generally is process ?

We used a Debt Recovery Agent who lodged our claim on our behalf (Legal Source). But ring Quikfund up first and get a response from the idiot on the phone like we did and use that in your claim as it only proves they do not have a legitimate claim otherwise they would be initiating Court action but they are coward and thieves and know they would not have a leg to stand on if they go to Court. MAKE SURE you contact Veda Advantage the Credit Rating people and put them on notice that you have a dispute which is unsettled with Quikfund and not to lodge a default notice until they receive a Judgment Order or similar NOT just the word of a bunch of thieving pric.....s. That's my advice

Hi ralph Hi Ralph I have helped 5 unhappy applicants on this website so far with out any cost to them If you have genuine claim please call me on 0295988885 And I will se if I can help you There are few people on this web site that are not genuine and not wanting any help They are just happy to rubbish others

Kullillajo If you are genuine and need help with you agreement Why not call me 02 95988885 and se if I can help you This will not cost you anything it my safe you time and money

Hi Paula Please call me I have helped few people on this site regarding there payout As for that company that you are talking about they are called NEXGEN they are from a company called link solution All they will do is sell you new equipment they are the same guys that where at link Please call me it’s only a cost of a phone call 02 95988885

Hi STEPH 88 I can help you if you like please call me on 02 95988885 Yes there are company’s out there telling lots of client that the only why out is to sign again They should be reported top ACCC the only reason they have your information is because they are the guys that where at AXIS And know they are called NEXGEN

Hi Linny I can help you with your situation please call me urgently on 02 95988885 There is class action against choice comm. flexi rent Just for anyone ells out there Just call Nextel all the staff from choice comm. and there director have started with that company

Who are you HILL?

Hi Hill, as there seems to be alot of people in dire straits on this forum, why not help them out by posting your solutions on this forum, that is if you r genuine in helping us folk out? i have tried to call you several times but your phone just rings out?

Hi Chrissy sorry i do have voice mail i would have called you back this is genuine help

kullillajo i am here to help out if you do have problem you can call me

Hi Hill, i will try calling again. Which '5 unhappy applicants on this website so far' have you helped?

Hi Hill I have tried calling your number with no reply. I would like to know who you actually are. are you a solicitor?

Hi Linny no i am not a solicitor but i can help call me i am next to my phone

Hi Chrissy yes i have 4 applicant that called me

Hi Hill, i thought you said 5 not 4? anyway the number is not important its the help that is. Can u tell us all who you helped? i have not heard anyone on here recommending your help, thats all.

Hi Chrissy Unfortunately when they call me I get there real name so I cant tell you who they are Why not call me and se what I can do for you this way you will have the proof first hand

Anybody on this forum received help from Hill? I would like to hear from you. Sorry Hill but just want to hear it from others for reassurance. We have all been bitten before because we did our business in good faith.

Hi Chriss i am not sure what you consern is i am not asking you for any money

Hill, How do you have the capacity to help us? I will not call you until you tell me who you are, who you work for, what your relationship with Barry Kennedy is(who I have had the unfortunate experience to deal with). Perhaps you work for Quikfund and are trying to put out spot fires??? Maybe thats better late than never but come clean and let us know... We are all too warey of the evil business and dont trust anyone unless they come clean.... if you can really help I'd love to hear what you have to say but only after you explain your motives... Regards Fed Up

Hey fed up 1, i think Hill works for 'Quikscam' or 'Quikscum' or whatever they are trading under now. Isnt it funny how the phone number Hill provides is always screened by an answering machine. Come to think of it the phone number is very similar to other 'Quikscam'phone numbers. Just be weary fed up 1 and others in need of genuine help.

Hill mentions Axis, Nexgen & Choicecom as being baddies. Barry Kennedy worked for Axis and also works for them. They probably all work in the same building. How are all these other companies finding out about our contracts if it isn't them passing on our details???

Hi All, i work for a Telstra Partner and am a ex Telstra account manager. The people on this website have been bitten before and i can already see the vultures circling again to take another bite - no offence Hill I am currently helping a client out of this particular mess that they had signed up through Australian Equipment Rentals. I have been in the industry a very long time and i will tell you right now that the people here that are saying they can help you are trying to get you to end date your contract with clear or quick fund and then purchase their equipment. When you terminate your agreement with Quick Fund they generally own the equipment and you will need to purchase a new phone system - if you want to keep making and receiving calls. People like Hill are just positioning themselves to pickup these new phone systems when they occur. Yes i sell phone systems however i am only on this website researching these a**holes to help my client who yes we are replacing their equipment. Unfortunately guys you will need to terminate your contracts and seek legal representation to help recover your costs, however you will also need to be prepared to replace the equipment that under their contract if rightfully theirs (even though its unfair - they still legally own it). Like i said before i am only here for research however i HATE sharks and these type of people are the scum of the scum and gives a bad name to the industry. If you have any questions i am happy to try and help.

Hi Telco, referring to people like Hill as vultures is putting it nicely. At least the vultures come and pick once the animal is dead. i would use the term vampire, sucking out the living blood. Hope your research goes well. Look out for Thunder on this forum as he has a wealth of info on these scoundrels.

has anyone called Department of fair trading? i am suppose to hand my equipment back and do you know that we have to get one of their technitions to come and disconnect and test that all equipment work, even 5 yr old mobiles etc otherwise will cost about $400 to replace a 5 yr old crap mobile and $600 for them to come disconnect....then it is up to them to cancel our direct debit unless i cancel my account. this is SILLY, i am going to call Department of Fairtrading and see what they are doing, i feel like calling current affair again or get one of channels to go interview them and report..... they can do anything they want...so pissed off at them, and i have all other telcos chasing me like crazy, it will cost about $4000 to keep current system. what is the name of solicitor who was doing a group claim??????? does anyone know, i would like to call them direct and see where everything is at...

Very True ChrissyH I have already tracked them down to their office location and yet again another parent ABN and company name ( no surprises here ). Paula, funny enough i have also worked in the banking industry for a short time and when you give writing permission to someone to direct debit your account the only way you can stop it is to go to your bank and give them written permission to block them. Once they are blocked the only way they can ever D/D from you account again is if you go to the bank and give them written permission to lift the block. I hope this helps you.

Hi Paula, do a google search on Telco Finance Scams. you will find a group willing to help. email them for advice.

hi Chrissy which group? there is so much crap there, that is how i found this site... there has to be somone really looking into this that is aboveboard.

I wonder aswell fed up 2. Also interesting how no one on this forum acknowledges being helped by Hill in contrast to what Hill is saying? Where has Hill gone & who is Hill? Ppl out there with contracts beware! Fed up 2 makes a valid point. ChrissyH

Guys i just remembered that Telstra has a whole of business plan called ALL4BIZ. Depending on your Telco spend with Telstra it gives you a very large Technology Fund which you can also use to pay out early termination charges of your existing supplier to move to Telstra. as a example 5 year contract for a $2500 per month plan is about $25,000 fund The plans start at $1000 per month and move up to $30000 per month. I know it might sound like a sales pitch but it might give some people the necessary cash flow to payout these basta#rds and get back to business. If you are looking at the above i would recommend using a 3 star Telstra partner or a Telstra Business Centre. Yes i do sell this product, however i don't want to appear bias so please refer to the above unless you pacifically need my help. If you want any clarity on what the ALL4Biz offers that people have told you it can and can not do i am happy to confirm for you.

Hi Paula, Drapes posted this for you earlier. http://www.telco-finance-scams.com/

The website is down at the moment while I wait to see what they are unhappy about. Email still works info@telco-finance-scams.com Don't ring Fair Trading, lodge a civil claim in the fair trading tribunal. I heard they didn't turn up to VCAT and had $18k awarded against them recently!!!

Guys I am not sure how old these comments are so today is the 5/9/2012 .We have also been in conflict with Quikfund over contract which we signed with Axsiom in 2009 which was supposed to be for telephones but promised us this and that and now we have to keep paying altho the Telco Clear let us terminate the contract middle of last year. We stopped our Direct Debit payment to Quikfund and pay via Internet, however if we are 1 day late they charge us $103.00 late payment. We now owe them $1200.00 late payment fees which we are refusing to pay and have received a letter saying they will give us a bad credit by going to Veda. Well you know what, let them! If everybody cancelled their Direct Debits with Quikfund and stopped paying, dont you think they would suffer and maybe go under? From what we have been reading on this page they are fraudulently obtaining thousands of dollars every month.What do you think might happen if everyone stopped paying them. The gutless wonders are too scared to go to court, so maybe we should stand up to them and let them see how it feels.

i am not comfortable now emailing anyone or calling... why hasnt everyone lodged a civil claim already? shouldnt there be a real solicitor doing this already... who is it? i want to hear from someone who has actually sorted out their problem.... these idots already probably know who is writing about them and i am sure they are reading everything we write...

i was under the impression that we cant cancell our direct debit with bank unless they cancel on their side. i will contact the bank again and ask, i think the only way to do it to cancel your bank account and that way they cant take from an account that doesnt exist.... if i am wrong please advise me... i am worried when my contract terminates that they wont stop taking money out and then i still have to go to court and employee a solicitor... thanks

Hi Paula, I know CBA have a form you can complete and submit to them ( www.commbank.com.au/business/pds/000-470... ) however you will need to check with your bank. I imagine this wouldn't just be CBA. I would also check your original contract as some of these contracts have a auto renew clause for the another full term unless you have given sufficient notice to terminate. I would still suggest pursuing your own independent legal advise and include the legal fees in the claim as going off Thunders last blog they probably wont turn up to defend themselves.

The best way to stop payments is to change your account. The other option is to go to your bank and to cancel the the direct debit authority. Tell them that you have been mislead and they should be able to do it for you at one of there computers. Just be aware that quickscam may use another of their entities to try and keep the direct debits coming out.

CBA is the only Bank that does it easily, and successfully, and if one slips through they can reverse the transaction. Other Banks don't seem to be that helpful. It is YOUR bank account, and YOUR money, and they are only authorised to deduct funds from YOUR bank account if they have YOUR permission. Some bank employees don't seem to understand this. If the debt is officially "in dispute" it is illegal for them to list you with VEDA. Once listed, the record will remain for 5 years, even after it is settled. Therefore, it is prudent to lodge a Civil Claim in VCAT/CTTT/QCAT before stopping payment. If you have a long time left on your contract, if you continue to pay while the claim is going through, then the hearing will be all about Misleading & Deceptive conduct rather than them arguing "you signed a contract agreeing to pay, yet you stopped paying".

Hill, im suprised you would choose to post your number on this site!!! i just requested a payout from quikscum, and guess who replied??? MICK HILL???? I dont think this is a coincidence, the number hill is advertising is also the number mick hill from quikfund had on the bottom of his letter head!!! just another way to keep the hakim income growing, im sure hill on this site is mick hill, and i ahve a sneaky suspicion mick hill is actually mick hakim FELLOW POSTERS, PLEASE DONT TRUST HILL OR ANYONE ASSOCIATED WITH QF fy1: there is a company called telecom connect who is doing the exact same thing as axis: this company is directly associated with the quikfund they pass them leads and everything, please be aware all your business owners out there,

hey ripitoff, it just goes to show the lengths they will go to all in the name of GREED! I think all people should be aware of whats happening. Just imagine how many people are in contracts have have no idea that they have a dirty leech slowly draining their accounts. i'm sure if we all band together and get a twitter account going the news will spread very fast! we can call it Quikscam

ChrissyH, I think there is a more interesting way this can be handled. There is a group called anonymous who are a bunch of IT Hackers that go around ruining people like this. I remember watching some youtube clips of how they bullied the biggest Cartel in Mexico. Greed is nice if you still have your house, bank accounts and drivers license in your name. I would love to see these guys just wipe all information on this guy. Now the question - How do we notify them?

disgusting, it should be illegal this mick hill(mick hakim) charecter is runing peoples lives while he sits back and collects, this telecom connect company have been hounding me ever scince i have given quikscum notice!! how ironic that they only call me once they realise im looking and terminating the agreement

Hey Telco, i hear they have a twitter account and a face book page. maybe someone can contact through face book and send them various links such as this and other forums, the four corners transcript which is available on line and a few court decisions? It might make for some interesting reading for them! Hey Ripitoff, they have no conscience. It is illegal (misleading and deceptive conduct) however most victims are not even aware and when they are they have to take action and fight it, costing time and money. Most people cant fight it so thats how Quikscam gets away with it.

Has anyone thought looked at the Get Up campaigns??? At the moment they have one for the Super Trawler and they have around 90k votes against it. www.getup.org.au Not Good Enough www.notgoodenough.org Larry Pickering on Facebook or Larry Pickering Post has stories about Julia Gillard, etc Some interesting reading on these sites :)

Yesterday I emailed the Credit /Dispute person from Quikfund asking for a breakdown in the late fees I have been charged..simple question ie what interest rate are you charging if 1 day late cost me $103.00 on a $275.00 monthly payment. Reply came back not interested in getting into a cat fight if we dont pay they will do what they have to do and if I want to join class action against them go ahead! She told me on the phone class action had been dropped and I cant find anything that shows what is happening. Will be ringing about civil claim but as I am in WA and most of the court action seems to be in Vic and Queensland, not sure who to contact. ACCC has already told me there is not a lot they can do???? Who is protecting the consumer?

Hi Philly, If you are in WA (or South Australia) you can lodge a civil claim in the NSW CTTT and ask to attend by telephone. Some of the others have lodged in VCAT as well and attended by phone.

Has anyone thought about this action going on at the moment heard about it on the news where they have fought against high bank late payment fees. A cost to the bank of only a few cents or dollars at the most and they are charging up to $45.00 they had a win against the banks this I would assume goes to all lending across the board. Something to look into.

Hey Ausis, good point. I wander if those same lawyers would be interested? It has at least now set a precedent in terms of late payment fees.

how can Hill be same as quickfund and be advising and running this site and then they know who the people are and what they are saying, wonder how many have given their number to that site and Hill called and left message and then cant get him again.... who is this man???? does anyone have a photo, would be great to paste it up so we know who we are dealing with.... shameless they are who actually set this site up, i am confused now.... is it for the general public or is for quick fund to know who is against them and they keep inproving their scams....

Hi all, I had been fighting with Quikfund in Vcat, They were trying to claim about $4000 in overdues which they offered to reduce to $1,000 to settle the whole deal once and for all. I rang Hill, I did not tell him who I was and he wouldn't tell me who he worked for so I hung up.... My phone number must have shown up at his end and 10 minutes later he rang me back, knew who I was and what my issue was. He spoke to Barry Kennedy and they dropped any further action, wiped the $1,000 and signed the goods over to me. I'm not saying you should all ring him but thought you should know that I have had the releif that this is over since then. I was still ripped off for 5 years no question but its over now... Good luck to you all. Drapes

Paula look at the first post by Lyne for answers. I doubt it is Quikscam as this forum is only exposing their scams further and alerting alot of people. Personally I would not talk to Hill. No one on this forum has admitted to be helped by Hill as he suggests. I suggest you get legal advice if you are weary of any help offered here.

Thanks for that info Thunder, I will be getting right onto it........yes Paula it is a bit of a worry if Quikfund are secretly putting in moles to find out who is doing what against them! The email address at the top posted by Lynne sdoesnt appear to work as I have sent off an email and got an automated reply saying not a valid email address???? Who knows what is happening there!

Lynne was a genuine victim and was forced to do a deal for around half of what was owed. That was a fair while ago. I am not sure what email address you are talking about. The partial one she lists is info@telco-finance-scams.com and it works. They eventually find all of the forums and websites talking about them, so it is best to be careful what you say, and don't reveal strategy. Philly, the first line in your last post is good, as it leaves them wondering, and gets up their noses.

Yes we are another person stung by Quickfund Australia Pty Ltd. Sugguestion keep the presure on the ACCC and go to your Federal Memeber and get them to your local Magistrate Court and lodge a claim against them. You must write a letter of demand first stating your claim. Should you be able to win your claim and the fail to attend you maybe able file against them. I also suguest to take it to Today Tonight or the ABC to ensure they are exposed and how many people are affected by there tricks. Look at the website a FACEBOOK page would be suited for Quickfund Australia Pty Ltd. Good Luck everyone there are the scum in business and according to ACCC once the pressure is on he tend to file for Bankruptcy

I'm another naive person who got into trouble, but after waiting so long for the contract to finally ended last year, I tot I've got over that I was scammed, but guess what, after 8 months the contract ended, outof no where, quikfund started taking out money from my account again!!! WTF!! now demanding them to pay back but hey they are in the market to scam people, how much luck to do think I have? I so want to go on current affair to make sure no one else is suffering from what we have gone through! Think of what type of finance company they are, where if none of us sign anything at the begining, we might own a BMW Or Merc by now! shish!!

Hi Philly, also from WA and my boss signed up for all this 5 years ago. The contract is finished in 6 months and I have just found this feed about Quickfund. Boss has gone to the bank and cancelled business bank account to stop the direct debit $550.00 p/m. Thunder, what do you suggest we do now...

I would sugguest that everyone contacts ACCC and keeps on them and perhaps seek advise in relation to there tackets we are seeking legal advice in relation to recovering and there method of black mail. We tried to make a visit to there office and there where not willing to meet. They have a so called manager called Joe Auv.They leave you on hold for some 15 min then hang up on you. I would sugguest everyone stop paying and see what they can achieve it would keep them very busy and perhaps break them. I believe a class action is needed against Quickfund Australia and ACCC, they are there to protect the consumer they seem to have forgotten about small - medium business.

I agree Busbe...I said earlier that if everyone stopped their automatic payments & refused to pay...then surely this would have an adverse reaction on Quikfund...no one paying= no money for them to pay wages etc.....am waiting to see what is the reply to CTTT...I agree also the ACCC should be flooded with complaints about this company and then maybe they will do something!

My name is Debbie and I have been employed by Quikfund to assist anyone who has a legitimate concern regarding their lease, be it with Quikfund or another party. I can be reached by telephone on (02)95988695 or email debbie@quikfund.com.au.

Hi Philly & Busbe if you are in need of help as you can see my email please call Debbie or email me and we can discuss these issues in further detail.. Thank you

Hi Thunder, Chrissy, Paula, If you are in need of any assistance in these matters please contact me on (95988685) or email me debbie@quikfund.com.au Thank you and i hope i can be of any help to you and the issues that are bothering you...

Telco's comment that the Telstra ALL4BIZ Plan @$2500 per mth for 60 mths will pay out $25000 to get you out of one of these shonky deals is just not correct. The Tech Fund can only be used on Telstra approved products. I have been consulting in the field of telecommunications for the past 10 years and this scam under various names, as they liquidate coys frequently and start up new ones, has been going on for all of that time and more. With a lot of effort and cost it is possible to wear these crooks down and minimise final payouts if they exist. never send the gear back to them, just pack it up "NICELY" and advise them that it is ready for them to collect at the address they originally delivered it to.

Hey Worldly, You Obviously have nothing to do with our company so i advise you not to give out that kind of info as if we do collect our produts they would still have to pay the monthly contract minus the equipment.. Any Further discussions please contact me on (02)95988685 or email me debbie@quikfund.com.au. Thanks :)

Hi Wordly wise. I work for a Telstra Partner and i am a ex Telstra Account Manager. i can tell you for a fact that the Tech fund is also available to payout existing early termination charges from another provider providing these services are being brought back to Telstra however it is not generally advertised. i.e.: if you advised Quikfund to collect their gear and move these services to Telstra under All4Biz and purchased a new system as you had to return the old one then yes you can claim it. If you advised quikfund to collect their gear and moved the lines to Telstra and purchased a non Telstra partnered system then no you can not claim it. You can only claim early termination charges associated with the services being moved to Telstra. I hope this gives a little more clarity.

Hey Debbieqf, Over the years I have had many clients who have had the misfortune to be ripped off by your bunch. We have, on a number of occasions, been able to negotiate a less traumatic outcome for them than the one put to them by your lot when they sort a solution by trying to negotiate directly with the DEVIL6B6J

Telco, the charges we are talking about are not Early Termination Charges from another Provider, they are charges from a Finance Company for equipment which could even be a "Free" Plasma TV offered in the original con. This has absolutely nothing legally to do with the telecommunications Provider. I agree that Telstra will cover ETC's to port the Telco services and the Tech Fund can cover the purchase of a new Telstra recommended Phone system. I would also state that we get "nothing for nothing". If you enter into an ALL4BIZ contract that has a $25000 Tech Fund attached to it, be assured that you will be paying the $25000 over the life of the deal. You sign on for a Minimum monthly spend, say $5000. If you actually clock up less than this amoun t in a month, you still pay $5000. If in a particular month you tick up $6000 in calls etc. then you pay $6000 for that month, not $5000. Guess who the overall winner is with ALL4BIZ deals.

Worldly my number appears to be on your screen plesae call if you have any issues..... Thanx :)

Worldly, The main purpose ive been hired from quikfund is to deal with people like you, obviously your a Telco dealer who got the clients messed up to begin with, like i said contact me you have my details :)

Debbie, Lets not forget here that your CEO was the previous director of many of these Telco dealers ripping off small business owners that i am sure has been quite profitable for him. He is no longer allowed to practise in Telco but he is in finance which is quite convenient. These business tactics that was used is absolutely disgusting and your clients don't want anything to do with your company - nothing personal. If you do actually want to help these small business owners from these terrible scams that Quikfund have been associated with you will end date any contract that has served its full term without penalty and not try automatically renew contracts or charge people overcharged ETC's to end date their contracts. Unless you are going to be fair and reasonable you have no place here. If you are going to be fair and reasonable i suggest you point that out quickly and i am sure that people will blog this was the case after the fact. But if not then you are probably wasting your time here. In regards of your last post to Worldly, if he is or if he isnt is irrelevant - Your company is the one upholding these ridiculous contracts so make sure your own backyard is clean before you start looking into someone else's.

Hi Fed up1, My names Debbie and i have been employed by Quikfund to deal with issues that are bothering you, can you please contact me on (02)95988685 or email me debbie@quikfund.com.au Thank you :)

Debbieqf, I am not a Telco dealer. I run a Business Consultancy covering a range od areas, one of which is telecommunications advice on "How to do things smarter". I work with my clients to improve outcomes for them, not to make Telco Providers rich. I have noted your phone number and if in the unlikely chance that I need to talk to you, I will do so but don't hold your breath.

Hi Paula, I have been Employed by Quikfund to deal with situations that are bothering you and see if i can get it fixed up, please call me on (02)95988685 or email me debbie@quikfund.com.au Thank you :)

Hi MCMATS, I have been Employed by Quikfund to deal with situations and the question you asked earlier on about what happens if you stop Payments? Please call me on (02)95988685 or email me debbie@quikfund.com.au.. Thank you :)

Hi JohnnyGK, I have been employed by Quikfund to deal with situations that concern you, as i read your comments earlier i see you have been paying monthly repayments and would like this matter settled, please call me without hesitation on (02)95988685 or email me debbie@quikfund.com.au and hopefully i can assist you and sought out your matter.. Thank you :)

Hi Telco, I just read your post and yes iam to assist and help as much as i can, as for cancelling contracts people know what they signed up for so why should i have to be the one to cancel the contract for them, but iam here to see how i can work around them and try to make it as easy as possible.. When you sign for a contract usually means you have read the terms and conditions and know exactly what you have signed up for so how is it a scam when clearly you know what you have put yourself into, anyhow my details are there for all to contact me on so please do not hesitate as it is my job to do so.. Thank you :)

Hi all, i rang the number and a Delilah answered the phone. I have only known one Delilah and i have only read about her and what i read was that she couldn't be trusted! She betrayed for money! How appropiate! If we were all to read the contracts and the fine print it would take over an hour, try it and time it for your self. the sales ppl are there for a quick sale ...sign here..and here...and here etc. most of us did not even get a copy of the contract so that we could read it later and be given a chance to cancel within the cooling off period. so No DELILAH we did NOT know what we signed up for. Are YOU listening? If so and you are genuine in your help FIX IT.

Debbie, The reason why it was a scam was how it was positioned to your clients. The people who signed up for the contract are yes technically liable which is the only reason you have manage to win some of the court battles however because the way your sales people or the dealers have positioned it was free plasma highlighted within the opening pages however in the fine print it was clearly not. - This is deceptive and also fraudulent which is why Tony Harkim is also not allowed to own a Telco company anymore so don't pretend like your company or the dealer agents did not try to hide these details because it is very clear that it was purposely deceptive. I do agree that some onus needs to be placed on the client for not reading the fine print and or allowing someone to walk out of their premises without a copy of what they had signed for.however a really good salesman and a naive person can easily be tricked ( no disrespect to anyone here ). i.e.: "rather than take a photo copy of the contracts i will scan and upload them for you once it has been approved". Yes this was a silly thing to allow or naive or moment of brain fart or whatever you want to call it however these proposals and contracts are completely misleading and clearly not fair. Ask yourself this debbie - Do you honestly believe that the services provided to these clients is fair and just and it forms a good business relationship. If you answered Yes then do something about it - If you answered no then you may as well quit because your attitude is clearly to take advantage of people and the last thing these guys need is someone else from Quikfund claiming they are going to help them. I understand that you might be new to the role - I suggest you have a very good look at the history of Quikfund and its owners and previous dealings and ask yourself do you really want to work for someone like this? Watching small business owners struggle and declare bankruptcy because they can not get out of Quikfund contracts - Is this something you want weighing on your mind?

Chrissy, Its Debbie here co workers do answer our phones if we are unattended, Saying that do you want me to help you resolve the issues that you have or not?

Hi Telco, Can you please Forward me over the copy of your agreement so i can see where it says all of the above. Thank you :)

Hi Jacquelynne Harris, My names Debbie and i have been employed by Quikfund to deal with the situation that you wrote in regards to the contract and would like to get it fixed for you if its possible. Please do not hesitate to call me on (02)95988685 oe email me debbie@quikfund.com.au Hope i can assist Debbie :)

Hi dee perth, Hi its Debbie, I have just seen the post that you put up and would like to assist you in this matter, if the issue hasnt been resolved please do not hesitate to contact me on (02)95988685 or email debbie@quikfund.com.au Thank you Debbie :)

Hi Charl58, My names Debbie and i have been emplyed by Quikfund to help assist you in any problems you have in regards to your contract & Agreements, Please do not hesitate to call me on (02)95988685 or email me debbbie@quikfund.com.au Thank you :)

Hi drapes, My name is Debbie and i have been employed by Quikfund to deal with matters that concern you and would like to assist you if i can, Please do not hesitate to call me on (02)95988685 or email me debbie@quikfund.com.au Thank you :) Debbie

To Debbieqf, I would suggest there are not enough hours in the day for you to deal with and assist people who have a grievance with Quikfund. Why dont they discuss the problems when the clients do ring them ad nauseum to discuss? Because they are just a SCAM company and now they are hi-jacking this site through you with your continuous bombardment of posts begging people to contact you. The only way out for me and all the other people ripped off by this company would be for the company to cease trading altogether...

Hi Debbieqf, i prefer to call you Delilah (nothing personal) how long have you worked for Quikscam? what are your qualifications and what capacity do you have in relation to these contracts? And finally, Quikfund are well aware of the people who are not happy by being mislead and have filed applications and so on, so why arent they/you contacting these people direct to offer your assistance?

Hi Philly, I have all the time in the world like i said you have an issue contact me and ill deal with it like i have for others. Thank you :)

Philly, By the way do you have an account with Quikfund to be able to help you. Thanks!!

Hi Chrissy, We do have a Delilah thats works here but will kindly appreciate it if you respect the fact that im not her and to call me by name, Thanx Anyway do you have an account with us??

9th Novemeber 2012 We are in the process of taking our case legal, not only are they not honouring the $1.10 buy back agreement but after receiving Quikfund's 'copy' of the rental schedule, they had actually added laptops and phones to the agreement after it was signed by us. Silly buggers didnt realise we had taken a copy at the time of signing. We know quite a few companies in the western suburbs that have been scammed, and we will be looking at (with our solicitors) a class action and media run of this. Please contact me if you would like to join us. liz@completerecruitment.com.au

I have 7 months left on my contract and asked for a payout as I'm sick of paying these scammers, they then told me I will have to pay a $1000.00 out of contract fee as well as pay $2000.00 for a 5 year old TV and sat nav. The nav is a small in car unit you can pick up for $50.00 these days back then it would of been worth $120.00. What happend to the $1 buy. You willing to do anything about this debbieqf or you just trying to silence people on this board?????

Hi all I have contacted today tonight Sydney in relation to this guys also the Melbourne Age and the ABC. The are looking into doing a run again this time asking the ACCC to appoint there view and reaction. I am happy to join a class action to recover my $52000.00

I have made a application to claim through CTTT which i recommend to everyone as well as contacting Today Tonight

do you have a contact number or link for CTTT

http://www.cttt.nsw.gov.au/Divisions/Gen...

Do you have a point of contact for today tonight

Thank you so much these people will be stopped along with Veda corporation along with Dunn and Brad Street, they try black mailing everyone, I went to there office last week doors locked. lights on. Our company operates 300 vehicles on the Eastern Sea board our Director is going to place signage on the rear of the fleet advertising the Quick fund scam. BEWARE OF CLEAR TELECOM are still active in WA

NSW = CTTT, Victoria = VCAT, and Qld = QCAT. In NSW the cost is $74 to file the claim. One of the victims that filed a case in VCAT was awarded a full refund of all money he paid on the contract. info@telco-finance-scams.com

i found this interesting, http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xskidx_...

I have spoken to them regarding my contract and received a confirmation email from their side, they said they will allow me to keep the goods with no extra to pay. Will keep you informed at how this turns out as as my contact ends this month!

I have spoken to them regarding my contract and received a confirmation email from their side, they said they will allow me to keep the goods with no extra to pay. Will keep you informed at how this turns out as as my contact ends this month!

Any company that adds things to a contract after the client has signed it and made the unfortunate mistake of not insisting on a copy of the document at the time of signing, is only going to go down one path and that is to rip off the client for as much as they possibly can. Other aspects of their contract confirm this, like having to give 6 months notice in writing prior to the end date of the contract, otherwise it will run for an additional 6 months from the time notice is given. Everything they do has a very strong smell about it.

Ask them to collect the items and ignore them as the business is closed. How did they contact and why after two years? Seek advice and report them once again to ACCC. The are shonks. I have ordered signs for our vehicles to warn the public of the company and the deals they do, Try a history search on the company and Directors of Quickfund interesting reading.

QFSUX12, a couple of thoughts. If the contract was with the business that has closed, was that a limited liability company,if so tell these fraudsters to sue the company that no longer exists...a bit of their own medicine. The second option is to just ignore them if it took 2 years for them to get back to you. Finally, it would be wise to seek legal advice as well.Good luck dont give in to them.

QFSUX12, legally, dissolving the partnership does not remove responsibility for debts incurred by the partnership. Liability rests severally and individually. That means the debtor can pursue the partners together or individually, if one individual has no assets after dissolution of the partnership then the debt can be totally enforced on another ex partner who has enough assets to cover the original debt.Definitely seek legal advice ASAP and remember dont give in to thes crooks.

Thanks again. My comments from above are missing but will def look into it all. Hopefully we will all get the result we are after.

Im sure these scammers are now in the same building as the old ntg on paramatta rd, just goes to show that regardless of what anyone says, all these companies are inter-related and the whole thing is just one big scam. DO NOT TRUST QUIKFUND, ARGUE YOUR PAYOUT THESE GUYS JUST WANT AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY CAN GET FROM YOU.

I have a tribunal date, so we will see!

We have come to a resolution with Quikfund. I recommend anyone contacting Mick Hill 02 9598 8885. Dont give up! have all of your information together, orgainse a tribunal hearing date in your state then contact quikfund to try to get a resolution beforehand.

just updated my self with lots of updates... wow... i am now looking at fianlising and changing my system after 5 years... i am also to hand back all equipment in working conditions. yeah right, who has mobiles for 5year. i complained that mobiles didnt work and they didnt replace and now they want them back.... they also said that i have to pay for someone from their company to come and remove the equipment and check if all working otherwise i will have to pay for a technition to try all the equipment to see if all works before they finalise. i am going through all paperwork and trying to see what way to get rid of these people once and for all... i also have so many of the well know companies on my case daily to try and sign me up again.... learnt my lesson, would rather pay little more with Telstra than go with these scammers...... so where is that Debbie now, has she resigned..... i will check that website that was posted..... and write back if i had any trouble with them, latest information has been informative.

We are also fed up with Quikfund. I rang them this morning to get an address to send our "free telephone system" back to and was told that I could not get an address without telling them my contract number..anyone got an address..Thanks

I have not long ago given the required six months notice of termination & received an acknowledgrement. I have the usual $1.10 option to buy out a 50" plasma TV & but the contract says the tv & office phone system are to be returned. Quikfund seems willing to put a purchase price on the items & i am interested to know if anyone has been able to negotiate a reasonable deal. I my view a 50" five year old plasma tv without any warranty isn't worth much & the same phone system two yeras old with warranty can be bought for around $350. Any feed back ?? Paula my contract only requires the goods to be returned in working order it says nothing about you paying for a techo to come out & check it out I'm leaning very heavily towards telstra to replace the phone system if quikfunds offer is unreasonable

Whatever state you are in, it will be interstate to you. There have been cases of equipment going back and the address given is vacant. Another received a letter demanding payment some 2 years after the goods were returned, then they had to try to find the old con note and get POD. File a civil claim in the Fair Trading Tribunal - it is cheap, brings the matter to an end, and you may even get a refund!!!

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Well I just file my case to the CTTT dated November 2012 and I suggest everyone do the same. I will post my file result here. Also Quickfund been calling me twice since I file my case to the CTTT. Today date is 14/12/12 Cheers

ALERT ALERT to all you people out there going through anxiety about the phones and pay back whatever and give back whatever and pay out a figure for the phone system. Well we submitted our case to the CTTT over 12 months ago. Many delays later but today the last day of the High Court, yes it went to the high court and we were offering not to pay the pay out figure of $26,000 and we would return the equipment. Well WE WON WE WON WE WON and we cannot believe it. they have to pay us back the money that should not of been charged in the first place plus legal fees. Yippeeee. So all of you out there thinking about submitting your claim do it now, all these scammers are getting found out. Good luck and we still cant believe WE WON WE WON.

I would like to give a big thankyou to this website and the fellow that helped me draft the letter we needed to start proceedings. If it was not for this site we would not have taken them to court and WON. Thankyou SO SO much.

Hi KJ, Great News!!! Can you send me an email and let me know some of the goss, and how & why you won, as it will definitely help others. info@telco-finance-scams.com Cheers Greg

Congratulations KJ, thants fantastic news for the rest of us that stung by these mongrels..How do I go about submitting my application?

We submitted our claim to the CTTT (cost around $280) and we stuck to our guns by saying that their contract was misleading and deceptive. At the hearings we said NO to paying out the pay out money $26 as we have already paid this amount and more and they were misleading and deceptive, but we offered to return the equipment. (phone system, 6 handsets, photocopier big one, plasma tv). They said no and we had to obtain a lawyer as it went to the High Court. The decision today was they had to pay us back the money we should not have paid ($16,800) and we do not have to return the equipment. They also have to pay us back all the legal fees. HA HA to them, I cannot believe it but it has taken 12 months to get here but it has been worth it even with all the worry that we had to pay them back. My hubby and I lost our business over this and it is a little bit of sunshine at the end of the tunnel finally. Good luck with it all. Submit your claim to the CTTT you can do this online.

I load my application as well and Quickscam call me twice since than and threatening me. So I just told them see you at CTTT and will see if they turn up. Good to know KJ that you have won please put your file number up for all of us so we can used it as a refence and bring it to the CTTT as it is pretty much the same for all of us. Today date 20/12/12 Cheers

heya thunder I emaild the info@telco-finance-scams.com about what would you like. is this the right email for you

hey quickscammer. I do not go for the name much but anyways Our case number is 2011/374908. Their contract was misleading and deceptive, because they offered us free equipment with a payout figure of $1.00 at the end of the contract period of 5 years and we could have the equipment but this was not the case because they were asking for it back and to pay for a payout figure of $26K. It was in the local court sorry not the high court silly me.

Thanks KJ the more file number the better as the judge can see that QuickScam are just a scammer once I get my court case sort it out I will also put my file number up for everyone to use. Today 20/12/12 Cheers

Good luck with it ALLL of you. Be strong, they will be trying to scare you as they did us, they brought me to tears but my hubby held my hand and said out loud "one day you people are going to get what you deserve" and TODAY that has happened 20-12-12

Glad to hear you have a good Happy Christmas KJ and your headache is over and thanks again. Yes thats correct they already rang me twice and threatening me but I did not give in and will bring all the document thats relevant or similar to show the CTTT. 20/12/12 Cheers

Well done please put up your court file information on the webpage. Can you tell me did you every stop paying your payments we have paid $50000 this far.

yes we closed our bank account so they could not take any more out. Stop paying them immediately. We only paid $36K and they asked for another $26 and the equipment back that is when we went hang on that is not right and when we looked up for the phone number of quickfund all the information came up about the scam and we nearly died to think we were caught up in a scam and we were not the only ones. Submit your claim to the CTTT and go from there. but do not pay any more money to these horrible people. Good Luck and stick to your guns and be strong. Have a Merry Christmas to all, I know I will and hopefully some day soon you will be feeling the same as me. Thank goodness they got what they deserved.

Well KJ, what a Christmas present, and lucky it was today (just in case the world ends tomorrow!!! - LOL). I just finished reading it. What a good result. Cheers Greg

Well done KJ, thats amazing... so happy for you and your hubby... Rest easy this Christmas ;)

Here is my case number 2011/374908 For extra backup Kind regards kj

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great to hear, i am in process of putting complaint letter together for Department of Fair trading, quick fund have asked that we return 8 mobile all working condition otherwise will cost us $400 each for 5 yr old mobiles Nokia 6233 and other crap equip that was suppose to be free with system... we complained about these mobile at the beginning as i though they were China copies of Nokia and they went into liquidation at the time and no one would fix and now they want them back working? can you believe their CRAP.. you can by iPhone for that amount and they have recycle bins for old phone... wow..so i need to put letter together with all the facts, we are at finished contract and now the messy process of getting they system removed by their technician at charge of $600, again i didn't see that in the contract. i am too scared to email anyone as i don't want to get that mick hill again call me. oh and it says that any component or accessories missing will have to be paid for at cost.....

WHERE DO I GO (WHAT WEBSITE) TO LOOK AT THE CASE MENTIONED ABOVE.... WHO CAN HELP ME DRAFT THIS LETTER AND IS THERE A COST? LAST TIME I CALLED A NUMBER ON THIS SITE IT WAS MIKE HILL WHO CALLED ME.

Paula did you get anywhere with Mike Hill :) let me guess he is also wanted money and ask for high amount of payout figure ?? if he is dont bother and go make a claim to the CTTT like most of us will be. You can also put the refence number as KJ already mention for you is 2011/374908 this is her case number and there is also another one. Cheers 27/12/12

Hi Paula, yes I was helped with my letter but it was not mike hill. I do not like to tell the person because they might not want me to. You need to sit down and relax and think about what was offered to you at the time of contract and what you want you want now. Did they state to you to pay $1.00 at the end of the contract and you would own the equipment. And now they are telling you a payout figure of whatever and return the equipment. Then this is misleading and disceptive practice. You need to have your paperwork in order, then submit it to the CTTT on-line cost around $300. You will probably end up in court if you are not successful with the CTTT hearings as we did (lawyer $2500) but we will get all that back if you win as we did. It is a bit of a process and they do not turn up to hearings at the CTTT which worked also in our favour. It took over 12 months from our first submission to CTTT. Submit your letter ASAP so they do not send you to court first. Good luck with it I wish I could help further.

To Paula, my email is ijo94863@bigpond.net.au and I can contact you to give you a little information on how to start up if you like. 27-12-12 kj

Can anyone please update me where the ACCC is at with this case? I have just received an invoice from Quickfund for over $6000!! I tried to cancel this contract 2 years ago and was advised by Axiom that Quickfund had gone out of business and to hold my direct debit, which I did in around September 2010. I have never heard from Quickfund or the telco since.....now I have a giant bill!! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Paula, you need to visit www.telco-finance-scams.com website and send an email to info@telco-finance-scams.com for help with your submissions. We are victims, helping other victims.

Mr riptitof My name is Mick hill not Mick hakim At lease I have the ???? to tell people to call me as I am genuine and wanting to help people Not like you I have done my own investigation about you why not tell the people on this form who you really are You are James harb and elie Ayoub from Nexgen what was called before link solution You are the scam that promised all this clients and closed your doors and reopened as Nexgen Just like Michael Griggs was the director of choice comm. Rit off all this clients and closed his doors and re-oped As Nextel Don’t you guys out there wonder how they get you information and call you up to resign? And promises you that they will get you out of your agreement or refer you to CTTT Quikfund doesn’t have any association with any Telco out there James Harb and elie Ayoub I Hope telecom connect takes you guys to court that know they now who you guys are If anyone needs my help you have my email and my number I am not hiding behind any name

Hill Get lost loser. You are infact the Loser Hakim family. Dont listen to this loser the conman will do anything to get money stay away from this site loser. You are a parasite all you wanted is money. Please dont tell us Quickfund have nothing to do with the telcom scammer everybody know Quickfund is one of the scammer. So dont say Quickfund got nothing to do with the scam wake up. Everybody just follow KJ post and take this scammer to the CTTT closed them down for good this kind of scammer need to be closed down. KJ got anearly Christmas present and its evrybody turn to do the same and follow suite. 8/01/2013

This loser must be upset with you Thunder everytime you post to help genuine people on this site this loser come up swinging your way and trying to divert fault to others. Thanks for helping Thunder. Cheers 8/01/2013

To everyone out there that has been scammed by these people. PLEASE take notice of Thunder and go to the website he mentioned because if it was not for THUNDER I would not have won our case. He helped us so so much AND I COULD NOT THANK HIM ENOUGH. I DO NOT KNOW HILL, HE CAME ONTO THIS WEBSITE AFTER I HAD SUBMITTED MY CASE TO THE CTTT. I WOULD NOT TRUST ANYONE ELSE THAN THUNDER. STOP PAYING THESE SCAMMERS. CLOSE YOUR BANK ACCOUNTS AND SUBMIT YOUR LETTER TO THE CTTT. PLEASE TRUST THUNDER HE IS GENUINE. I CAN VOUCH FOR THAT. KJ 09-01-13 THUNDER YOU ARE A LEGEND

I'm trying to leave a message on the website to contact thunder but I can't get past the captcha code. I've tried more than ten times but I just can't get it right. I'm near the end of my contract with Quikfund and wondering what the best course of action is for me? Cheers

Mug, keep trying, email info@telco-finance-scams.com maybe he is busy with lots of inquiries with these scams. Read through the above for suggestions on how to go about it. You need to submit your case to the CTTT and go from there. Don't give up.12-01-13 kj

Mug, just send an email to info@telco-finance-scams.com and I will reply to you.

HILL-It continues to amaze me how you can continue to be involved with Business – After lengthy discussions with your own staff it seems to be common knowledge that Quikfund is owned by Tony hakim, Mik Hill is Mik Hakim and that you continue to lie and deceive customers as you have for more than 10 years. You only have to read what all the other businesses have reported about you on this page, do you honestly think we are that Naive? I was approached by one of your businesses Mik Hill/Hakim, Telecom Connect and thank god we went in another direction and hopefully this means we will never have to deal with you or your Cronies again.

Just to let people know, TELECOM CONNECT is involved with mick hakim. The owner of telecom connect is Kammy Shankar and she started working under mick in sales. Now she owns TC and mick works with her in the same office! Mick also sells leads to Kammy from his clear telecoms/ quick fund customers which is how TC knows who to call. Kammy then does the exact same thing to customers. Do you know how I know this? I used to work for TC until I found out I was signing up customers to a DODGY company affiliated with the hakim family. Telecom connect is scum and if you can get out of your contracts with any of these companies, I recommend this!

Pity this scum still can operate under someone else name for quick money. Thanks for the info spread the word and soon they will be out of business.

'Mick' otherwise known as Mick Hill, is the Client Service Manager at Quikfund, as shown in the emails he has sent to my business via Quikfund. VCAT recently ruled against them in Sherberry vs Quikfund http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodi... I hope everyone goes to tribunals against this dodgy company so future cases will be resolved even faster! 15/1/13

Mick hill is the name he goes by now as his real name mick hakim is known, as is his brother tony hakim. Tony is the leader and gives mick company's to run into the ground, like quikfund. And Kammy the owner (or "general manager" as telecom connect is in her husbands name) said mick has just been given another company so he is out there again but we were not told the name unfortunately. M2 clear could be it but not sure. Mick owns quikfund, but I don't think he can put his title as the owner. Tony hakim puts all his companies in brothers and cousins names, it's all in their family. Telecom connect is apart of all of this, and I feel horrible knowing I've been apart of it for a while. I've started calling my customers to try and help them out of their contracts but I don't know what else I can do to help.

This is another help just incase your not sure there is a link here for a class action. http://www.attwoodmarshall.com.au/2012/0... But thunder help will be the best as it is almost pretty much free, just make sure you bring all the facts print out all your payment with you when you go with thunder suggestion.

http://www.attwoodmarshall.com.au/2012/0...#

G'day all - new to the site. discovered this site after spending 3 hours trying to get somewhere with Quikfund - after searching the internet and ACCC, ASIC and NSW Fair Trading i have discovered we are one of many small businesses that have been scammed by these aholes. we asked for a payout on our contract as we were sick of paying $550 / mth only to be told that we had given notice 11 days late (should have been 10 Jan 2013 but gave notice 21 jan - contract finishes 10 July). i have lodged a complaint with NSW Fair Trading and will let you know how it goes. FYI - we did not realise that the contract had a 6 months notice period - in our view we signed a contract that finished 10 July 2013 (60 mths contract) and at the end of it we would own the equipment. as per everyone above we now know that this is simply a scam. clear telecoms were the other party to the deal - that is who we thought we signed up with and quikfund were the financiers for Clear telecoms - we were told we were paying it off in exchange for call credits on our phone bill - effectively the equipment was "free". today is 23/1/13

Further to my post some weeks ago, my husband received an "over due" notice of payment for the contract I tried to get out of some 2 years ago (and have not heard from Quikfund for 2 years since stopping the direct debit)as he was "guarantor" on the contract. He NEVER signed the contract and has nothing to do with my business, so where did they get his information from? I emailed them to say he was nothing to do with the contract (as well as telling them I was not paying their bill) and they apologised and said they would update their data and remove his name. This was back on Jan 11. Yesterday he received another "over due" notice!! I am not and will not make another payment to Quikfund, they are scammers and should be made to cease all business!!

Whatever you do, don't go with telecom connect or nexgen or gen7 if any of you guys ever sign with a telco again. Telair is the company I would recommend or Telstra (Telstra is a rip off but they are a well known and you know they won't be dodgy at the end of the day). And remember, sales people are very nice, for a reason. They've made a living making people think they are lovely people but most know what's going on. Be very weary of telcos!!!

kidderco, don't make the mistake of doing nothing, otherwise, when the debt blows out to more than $10k they will take you to Court and trash your credit rating, which will be expensive. Send an email to info@telco-finance-scams.com After I changed back to Telstra, they put me on a business plan and you know something??? My phone bills were cheaper than the scammers, and cheaper than my prior Telstra bills. Every day there seems to be a new Telco name pop up and close down, so be careful!!!

thank you Thunder. Having read many of these posts how do you know who to trust though? I haven't used Clear Telecoms since I stopped my direct debit in September 2010. I haven't heard from Quikfund until January 11 2013!! I am a Telstra customer through and through because I don't trust anyone else. With all of the cases against Quikfund how can they still operate....it's insane.

I got out of clear telecom but still hanging with the Quickfund. The contract is still to go for another 2 years. This is for a commander system we entered into a contract. Paying 297 per month. Tell me how to get out of this?

You have to be careful what you say on here, as they are reading this as well. Therefore, if we tell you how to get out of it on here, they become aware, and close loop holes. They have done thousands of these cases. Read above, my website and email address are both up there. Remember, they will bully you to pay, threaten you with VEDA. They don't care about you - it is all about the money. Some victims have been awarded full refunds and ownership of the free equipment. Personally, I cannot see why they don't honour these contracts and give everyone their free equipment (as promised). Most of this equipment is outdated, broken and worthless.

Just got a letter from these as well Jan 2013 about the ridiculous amount we owe as well.We stopped payment a year ago after We changed telco companies, and asked them to pick up their Tv's and never heard back!Seems like they have hit hundreds of small businesses.I called them to say come get the TV'S or we would package them up and send them back and they starting calling us again,seems like we could have a fresh new story to tell.Will act on a few of above suggestions

Just ignore them. They send mind to Veda, but when explained I still can apply for loan. I wonder what the government diong for us,small business maybe just like them taking our tax and Gst.