Did you hear the latest sign.. stakeholders the community has to pay $55 to go all the way to Campbelltown on a Monday workday to listen to what may be happening in our backyard. Not Campbelltown. Moorebank. On top the Campbelltown MP will be present to talk about the intermodal that is not in his backyard. The title says Moorebank intermodal. And on top they are saying they went to Campbelltown because it is cheaper. Can you believe that. But they are charging us lay people $55 to find out what

going on in our backyard. So my question is? Is the Mayor attending? Are councillors attending? or its too far to drive to Campbelltown. Again the govt betrays the public. What nonsense discussing a Liverpool issue in Campbelltown on top charging entry.

going on in our backyard. So my question is? Is the Mayor attending? Are councillors attending? or its too far to drive to Campbelltown. Again the govt betrays the public. What nonsense discussing a Liverpool issue in Campbelltown on top charging entry.

Dear DaraB Can you please give me details of what is going on at Campbelltown, Where ? When ? About ? Thanks

Wow hello Jim I am sure Signe can pass that to you but you have to be quick I dont know if councillors need to pay applications close tommorrow at 5pm. And its straight on Monday. We would have never found out it was by chance we found out and were the stakeholders. That is point one strike lack of community consultation and forcing the community to pay in tough times

Ppoint 2 Holding it in a place that is so far from the proposed area Point 3 Inviting Campbelltown MPs councillors, yet not including Liverpool... Strike strike strike. Already holes in the planning. All for the planning Minister.

Look honestly Signe... Im not against an intermodal but not BETWEEN two suburbs and a river Especially considering council is trying to do a river city and protect and utilise the river like Parramatta. Cant we push it closer to the tip... Honestly we shouldnt allow it to be between Wattlegrove ON top of the River Casula there goes the river dreams and the Powerhouse. We got an opportunity to push it out a little further like your own Green member stated. Near the tip. Doesnt affect anyone

Hi Dara, I think Monday will be a great opportunity to see what we can & can't do with regards to the Intermodal. Let's hope that community needs take precidence, although my comments above regarding the help for the locals would indicate we have no hope at all of getting a good result for Liverpool...her residents and the voting public. Our passion for what is right will mean that we (Greens & Residents) will at least fight for our city, our people and our river even if no one else will.

HI Dara, the Intermodal the Governments want is Like 50 times Bigger than your worst Nightmare so sorry it will sprawl all over the entire length of the Western side of Moorebank Avenue About 2.4 kls long.The River will be ---- a memory as the noise alone of freight operations will make use of the area no longer desireable. The Pollution is a given for such a huge proposed project. If we let them have their way that is without making our feelings known. Wake up Liverpool!

Hello All, First thanks to Dara & Signe for sending me the link to this meeting. Due to work commitments I cannot attend, however if someone is going could they please keep their eyes and ears open and jot down names and positions of people attending to send to me. Liverpool Council GM will be attending, hope he likes the lunch as I tuck into my sandwich. The impression I am getting is this is just a PR exercise by the organiser. Hope I am wrong.

It will be good to get a list of the players there so I can make further investigations as to what is going on. Sometimes it is amazing what you find out indirectly from the players when they think they are in company of like minded people. Hope you have not wasted your $ but stick it out to the end. Bring home some trophies from the headhunting. Good Luck...........Jim

Thankyou for being proactive. Signe Peter you sold us a Lemon. In your campaigns and I remember clearly sitting and watching Nadia with such Passion state lets go back to the River a River city. At the time I was thinking River City?? What are they talking about only concentrating on Riverpark. But now its come to the light. Council had knowledge that the defence site would be cleared. Hence the thought of lets populate it. Hence what seemed absurd at the time Having a Powerhouse down there.

would have fitted in perfectly with the concept of a River city. Housing and Development on both sides of the river. I got consumed with Nadias passion and so did the entire southward. Its yeah Yeah lets get back to the River. River City. How great will that be. Now our council are saying. Oh sorry done deals cant fight it. Just we will somehow make it better. Collingwood was a DONE deal. But we had passionate Mayors Passionate former councillors Passionate residents. Where is the passion gone.

Dara, You are being a bit unkind to Signe and Peter. While it had been known for many years, thanks to Roy's work about the site. Both the then Labor State Government and Liberal Federal Government had not released any development applications or plans. This made everything just speculation and could then and now not be official. The State and Fed govs now know what whey want but by keeping a lid on it until the last minute will stop to much protest. Have asked 3x about site and no DA yet.

Tony Hadchiti and now by the looks of it Jim is saying hang on a minute... How about you listen to what our constituents want. The vision we have for Liverpool. This could be a win win for everyone. Campbelltown what I am guessing dont mind this infrastructure. This infrasture doesnt suit Liverpool. But weve played our part we have allowed a freight line to go through. 10minutes up the freight Line in Campbelltown is not a big deal considering the trucks will spend 20minutes in gridlock on M5

Why cant we sell that vision to them. Like Campbelltown can and seems willing to support this infrastructure. I not saying Campbelltown Centre I am saying outside of Campbelltown on that vast land. There is a dedicated freight running there already on top so many Y Y along the Roads the trucks easily use Hume to go south to Canberra.. M7 to go to Minchinbery.. and Freight has a y at Moorebank to go down east hills to Port Botany and to Liverpool. The infrastructure can support it out there and

lead time will be halved. Why arent we putting this forward to them. Roy IS right. This is a WIN WIN For everybody. We get our River City. The government gets its Intermodal. The river is saved and utilised by the people. Signe there is no river on earth next to an intermodal that is flourishing. Lets get the gusto of the Collingwood Days. But Collingwood we had past Mayors and Councillors leading us. It wasnt too hard to rally the residents. It was me who got all those residents to the Whitlam

Centre. A lot of people dont realise that. I spent days talking to people that I even got a person dying of cancer there. But it was easier because I knew that there were people with Power backing us. Council needs to stand up.Lead this fight and the people will follow. We WANT A RIVER CITY. You all sold us a river city. Now you want to put your hands up and its not even concrete. Now is the time to fight to be heard.

No I am not being unkind. They are good people this is by all means not personal and Signe and Peter know that. All Im saying is dont sell me and the people of Liverpool a vision of a river city if your not prepared to stand up for it. You ALL did it in your campaigns.

I will be finding out about listing the Georges River and its feeder creeks on the National Trust for Liverpool. The Army Engineers site would also be a good National Trust listing. Both are significent to the City of Liverpool and the development of the Australia we have today...jim

Dara - the concept of River Cities was a pre-election vote grab by the ALP (http://www.duap.nsw.gov.au/plansforactio...) and everyone believed it - basically because that's what we all want. As with pretty much everything else they announce for western Sydney, it will probably never be anything more than a dream unless we (the residents) take action. The first thing both State and Federal Govts need to do is come clean with what the plans are for Moorebank.

Can the army site be populated with housing? We cant use the argument of Detonation considering my relatives are from a war torn country and if they can get rid of the mines and go back to their homes. This site has no problems. This could be prime real estate. I young people that grew up in the Shire and St George area that have bought around maybe even in Wattlegrove because they cant afford down south. And they are fine about it. Because there is a river dividing them from Westieville:)

This could help available to all http://www.heritage.nsw.gov.au/07_subnav... I have been a Westie all my life. I was born in Haberfield, grew up in Five Dock and then moved to my proud home Liverpool.

:):):) The outskirts of Campbelltown is a very good option for an intermodal. Its 10minutes away if that by freight. Campbelltown wouldnt mind it because for them it will mean that people will want to move out to be closer to work hence providing pollution growth for them. Whilst for us peeple will still live in FiveDock and travel to Moorebank for work. And they have both road and Rail infrastructure to support it. Isnt it logically then that our council combines with their council. And say

This is a better solution and a win win for all. We get a river city. The govt gets an intermodal and Campbelltown gets more population.It occurred to me because I couldnt get my head around why the Mp of Campbelltown was discussing a Liverpool issue. Cant we jump on that freight train and give this proposal. Its on the outskirts of Campbelltown which is not metropolitan and capable of expansion. What do you guys think?? Is it reasonable?

This is a better solution and a win win for all. We get a river city. The govt gets an intermodal and Campbelltown gets more population.It occurred to me because I couldnt get my head around why the Mp of Campbelltown was discussing a Liverpool issue. Cant we jump on that freight train and give this proposal. Its on the outskirts of Campbelltown which is not metropolitan and capable of expansion. What do you guys think?? Is it reasonable?

This is a better solution and a win win for all. We get a river city. The govt gets an intermodal and Campbelltown gets more population.It occurred to me because I couldnt get my head around why the Mp of Campbelltown was discussing a Liverpool issue. Cant we jump on that freight train and give this proposal. Its on the outskirts of Campbelltown which is not metropolitan and capable of expansion. What do you guys think?? Is it reasonable?

This is a better solution and a win win for all. We get a river city. The govt gets an intermodal and Campbelltown gets more population.It occurred to me because I couldnt get my head around why the Mp of Campbelltown was discussing a Liverpool issue. Cant we jump on that freight train and give this proposal. Its on the outskirts of Campbelltown which is not metropolitan and capable of expansion. What do you guys think?? Is it reasonable?

This is a better solution and a win win for all. We get a river city. The govt gets an intermodal and Campbelltown gets more population.It occurred to me because I couldnt get my head around why the Mp of Campbelltown was discussing a Liverpool issue. Cant we jump on that freight train and give this proposal. Its on the outskirts of Campbelltown which is not metropolitan and capable of expansion. What do you guys think?? Is it reasonable?

This is a better solution and a win win for all. We get a river city. The govt gets an intermodal and Campbelltown gets more population.It occurred to me because I couldnt get my head around why the Mp of Campbelltown was discussing a Liverpool issue. Cant we jump on that freight train and give this proposal. Its on the outskirts of Campbelltown which is not metropolitan and capable of expansion. What do you guys think?? Is it reasonable?

Signe Bill I understand the concept of an intermodal and why the Greens would support it. But in saying that this is a unique situation because it falls onto a river. Which also the Greens should support and protect. Can you provide an example in the Western world where an intermodal is situated on a river system and had no impact on the eco system?

Dara - the Greens urged in Parliament a couple of years back for the freight hubs to be located in Newcastle and Port Kembla. Offloading and redistribution should come from these centres, with a feeder network into Sydney. I don't know of anywhere that it's recorded that the Greens have supported the Moorebank intermodal, and I've asked for a definitive position from the MLCs.

Fair Comment to Dara Bill but,----- What about the Iconic Georges River as she rightly asked about? The Port Botany Expansion increasing container throughput capacity is as Large as Life so it is too late to stop that happening. Where in the Sydney Basin do the Greens think an Inland Port sized intermodal would be appropriate?

The Georges River of course is important to the South West and South of Sydney as it Flows through areas with a population of more than One Million People and provides a Vibrant Eco System and Recreation and Leisure for so many folk! Do we want to live in a despoiled area with innapropriate infrastructure placements? I thought Australia was a progressive Country but this whole Moorebank Intermodal scheme is so retrograde.

The Georges River of course is important to the South West and South of Sydney as it Flows through areas with a population of more than One Million People and provides a Vibrant Eco System and Recreation and Leisure for so many folk! Do we want to live in a despoiled area with innapropriate infrastructure placements? I thought Australia was a progressive Country but this whole Moorebank Intermodal scheme is so retrograde.

As you're well aware, Roy, the Greens were against any expansion of Port Botany - you yourself quoted from Sylvia's comments in Parliament. I agree - the Georges River should be the lifeblood of the area, and needs to be protected, not just from commercial vandalism of the type you describe, but from the disgraceful rubbishing of tributaries, such as the runoff from illegal operations into our creeks. I look forward to your help as we seek to fight this cause as well.

Bill the onasis shouldnt just be on YOU. Council have also the resources -people that can further delve into this matter. We really should all be on the SAME side for this matter.My father would say to me after the rain Dara you dont need a raincoat. Which means your saturated its too late. Here we have an opportunity to give other alternatives. When they sign off we have all seen how hard hard hard it is to fight. They havent signed anything yet. Lets give them alternatives. This is not the

ideal for this area especially considering there is a natural river on which its going to lie. If anyone attended the Thai festival a week ago at Parramatta. The whole ceremony was to give thanks to the lifesource the river. We cant diminish the signifance of this God given river running through our hence EVERYONES desire as you said to have a river city. The aboriginals at the Collingwood celebration also stated that their vision is to connect back to the river. Campbelltown may be an option

its a good feeder with the infrastracture. Feeder to the south (thanks for the word) Canberra, feeder to the west on the M7 Feeder into central Hume.. etc. You got the gist. That M5 bridge cannot support an intermodal next door. Interlink and RTA know that. Its poorly designed and they arent prepared to knock it down and start again. What about us commuters? Council MPs should be working on this Together initially if a demonstration is needed down the track. The residents will come. Eric Kontos

wants a River city (he mentions it so many times), Nadia Napolitana wants a river city, Maybe even the Mayor wants a river city, Signe wants a river city, Bill wants a river city, Andrew McDonald wants a river city.. he supported the Powerhouse with the vision of a river city. Jim wants a river city.. Everyone has to be on the same side on this and be proactive while its all so uncertain, provide alternatives. Win Win for everybody.

When is the truth about a number of issues in the Liverpool council area going to be freely discussed with the residents to see how their quality of life can be improved,it seems like too many people have hidden agendas and they dont come square with Residents.It has been my belief too many people have mainipulted things in the area for their own greedy good without looking into the implications for the majority of residents which should be the overall good when the truth is revealed it is bad

Hi Bill and this is not about other polluters of the Georges River but is about the Deadly Pollution that could emanate from Millions of tons of Freight Proposed to be handled at Moorebank. In addition the Deisel Smoke and Traffic with Ten Schools within 2000m of the Site. The Congestion of Local Highways and Thoroughfares and the destruction of Liverpool as a Family Friendly Residential LGA. I am at a loss of why I appear to be the Major Dissenter of this hopelessly misguided Idea. Why Me?

Okay, so I was involved in the Holsworthy Airport Campaign and I became very Passionate about protecting Liverpool from Politically Motivated Damaging Proposals. There are any number of Green Fields Sites situated ideally along the M7 therefore the notion that Moorebank is somehow unique does not gell. Most Containers are for Sydney Wide Distribution but Moorebank is closer to the Hume heading South. Campbelltown is better situated still to feed Southern Interstate Freight. Why Moorebank?

Okay, so I was involved in the Holsworthy Airport Campaign and I became very Passionate about protecting Liverpool from Politically Motivated Damaging Proposals. There are any number of Green Fields Sites situated ideally along the M7 therefore the notion that Moorebank is somehow unique does not gell. Most Containers are for Sydney Wide Distribution but Moorebank is closer to the Hume heading South. Campbelltown is better situated still to feed Southern Interstate Freight. Why Moorebank?

Okay, so I was involved in the Holsworthy Airport Campaign and I became very Passionate about protecting Liverpool from Politically Motivated Damaging Proposals. There are any number of Green Fields Sites situated ideally along the M7 therefore the notion that Moorebank is somehow unique does not gell. Most Containers are for Sydney Wide Distribution but Moorebank is closer to the Hume heading South. Campbelltown is better situated still to feed Southern Interstate Freight. Why Moorebank?

normally a vision means that the average citizen is left behind.As I have said before the employment opportunity for residents is limited as the container terminal would be heavily mechanised as the big cranes are done on a computer network.I worked at Port Botany office before and sent accounts out for the containers.I agree with Roy that the environmental disaster would greatly outweigh any employment opportunities.Most drivers are sub contractoors john anderson 0409368603

Seriously I don't get a say in where the intermodal goes, what I do want is that if it is being thrust upon us we get a say in how it affects us all and our river. No one seems to worry about the 30 year lease that BHP is getting on the top of the river, at Appin, no one Locally seems to care that the river will be undermined by long wall mining and there will be little to no water making its way here for our river city. We have a number of cities along the river and numerous feeder creeks and catchments... business will have to go somewhere and whilst I would prefer another site, it’s a NIMBY issue no matter where it goes. As Bill mentioned the Greens pushed for the intermodals to be situated at Wollongong and Newcastle... decentralising the whole operation but you are yelling at the wrong people, we at least are working alongside you, where are the people you voted for, what are they doing to help you fight this and all the other fights.... We are not always going to agree, we are however all working for the same thing, the best possible outcome for LIVERPOOL....

Send it to Campbelltown they seem to want it after todays forum. As for Appin and the other parts along the Georges River this is the first I as a layperson has heard about it. Roy Carter was right in saying that there will be a backwash too and from Port Botany to Moorebank. This means everyone including Southerners with those nice houses in Oately Kyle Bay will be affected. How about we notify all those council areas and see how they would feel about this. Isnt that the right thing to do.

They will have no idea of the impact that this will have on their areas. Their waterways. Isnt that the right thing to do. How about some-one notifies the entire South and South West and tell them of the impact this will have on their property. I am sure the $2 million dollar houses in Oately and such would like to know that there waterway will be further polluted. As Roy said, first do an environmental impact study, disclose it and then talk of an intermodal.

This shouldnt be left to just the Liverpool Fairfield Greens but all the Greens along the Georges River Corridor, From Ramsgate to .. well Appin and then we will see possible action. But no-ones hearing it because its not in ones backyard. But it is in mine thats why yes I am taking a stance. I sweated for my backyard the government did not donate it to me. And yes I will be speaking to Andrew and Chris especially after today. Anyone who has friends along down South in areas such as Oately,

Illawong Alfords Point, Picnic Point, Kyle bay, San Souci Kogarah Bay, just to mention a few please inform them that their waterways are going to be even more polluted due to the backwash to and throw between Moorebank and Botany. The entire South Southwest deserves to know exactly the impact of this intermodal. How are they going to know I got know idea.

You are right Dara in that this project will impact on a great number of people but today was the first time someone actually admitted it was going ahead, they didn't say planned or proposed they said when... gettine a commitment on that was somewhat harder, Now we have to lobby our inclusion in the planning... I made it clear to Michael Deegan we wanted in now, not sometime down the track and we want a REAL VOICE.

Exactlyu... But first and foremost they cant say this is going ahead on a whim... WE NEED TO SEE THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY... no-one can sell me an intermodal without first showing the enviro study. I saw and maybe you saw how that guy froze and was taken aback when Roy demanded an Environmental study. He DEFINATELY wasnt prepared for that. The Government owes that to the entire South SouthWest. If it comes out no impact go ahead.

Well Well so the situation is now fully in the open. Those whom apparently "supported" the general notion of the Intermodal Concept must now rue the day. Because the Major Political Parties have taken it to the Extreme and the concentrated activity will Destroy Liverpool from residential and environmental perspectives. Those whom downplayed the issue are now stuck with the consequences. Forget about winning concessions on an IMPOSITION PORT PROJECT it is too late! The horse has now Bolted!

Well Well so the situation is now fully in the open. Those whom apparently "supported" the general notion of the Intermodal Concept must now rue the day. Because the Major Political Parties have taken it to the Extreme and the concentrated activity will Destroy Liverpool from residential and environmental perspectives. Those whom downplayed the issue are now stuck with the consequences. Forget about winning concessions on an IMPOSITION PORT PROJECT it is too late! The horse has now Bolted!

Well Well so the situation is now fully in the open. Those whom apparently "supported" the general notion of the Intermodal Concept must now rue the day. Because the Major Political Parties have taken it to the Extreme and the concentrated activity will Destroy Liverpool from residential and environmental perspectives. Those whom downplayed the issue are now stuck with the consequences. Forget about winning concessions on an IMPOSITION PORT PROJECT it is too late! The horse has now Bolted!

Roy but you said a key word backwash. Say that to the papers for a few live on the waterways. This is going to affect the entire South Southwest. And everybody needs to know about it. How are they going to know I dont know.

Roy but you said a key word backwash. Say that to the papers for a few live on the waterways. This is going to affect the entire South Southwest. And everybody needs to know about it. How are they going to know I dont know.

Roy but you said a key word backwash. Say that to the papers for a few live on the waterways. This is going to affect the entire South Southwest. And everybody needs to know about it. How are they going to know I dont know.

Roy but you said a key word backwash. Say that to the papers for a few live on the waterways. This is going to affect the entire South Southwest. And everybody needs to know about it. How are they going to know I dont know.

This is like the Pulp Mill Situation because it involves the entire South. Southwest but were left in the dark their left in the dark. We wouldnt have known if we hadnt driven out to Campbelltown to find out about OUR ISSUE. And how on earth our we suppose to get it out there. Ok locally but this involves so many electorates.

This is like the Pulp Mill Situation because it involves the entire South. Southwest but were left in the dark their left in the dark. We wouldnt have known if we hadnt driven out to Campbelltown to find out about OUR ISSUE. And how on earth our we suppose to get it out there. Ok locally but this involves so many electorates.

This is like the Pulp Mill Situation because it involves the entire South. Southwest but were left in the dark their left in the dark. We wouldnt have known if we hadnt driven out to Campbelltown to find out about OUR ISSUE. And how on earth our we suppose to get it out there. Ok locally but this involves so many electorates.

This is a big on this is like the Pulp Mill and should get out there. It bad that all the guys along the river dont know. Well tommorrow I am going to tell the Leader for they have people living along the River. Also did anyone tell Macquarie Links and all those in New Casula where your auntie is Roy. I just cant get over how secretive they do it. We wouldnt have known if a local didnt find out about it. Its really depressing. Democracy is a farce

Here we have another example of development by stealth. The Moorebank site is set to dwarf the controversial Enfield intermodal - imagine what the effect will be on traffic throughout south-western Sydney! Far from being the Godsend that frees our roads of heavy freight rigs, we will see suburban arteries clogged with many times the traffic, albeit lighter rigs. The pollution and destruction of amenity will be immense - where are the local pollies on this issue? Vale has had a bleat, but the ...

... whole thing started on the drawing board when her mob was in power, and the State Labor MPs are characteristically silent. Even Megarrity (who vigorously denied the East Hills line would be used for freight) didn't bother to attend the Campbelltown snow-job that was held today. Roy has been something of a prophet on this one, and it's about time some of the question he posed were answered. The Greens will be demanding that the Federal and State Governments come clean on the ramifications!

Bill its not even traffic, its in the middle of suburbia. Metropolitan Sydney. IT IS HUGE. The whole of Wattlegrove will be engulfed by it. Even one of your Greens members supported it because they thought that its only one side and further up. But it isnt. The entire estate is engulfed.

That land is unique and not suitable because its one in metropolitan Sydney. Like I said to Campbelltown Mayor if your so in favor have it on the vast land on your outskirts. Its 10minutes down the freightline and you have the infrastructure and feeder lines to support it. This land should be used for housing. THey predicted double the population growth in the next 10yrs and their putting an intermodal in suburbia of a huge scale. Not even the scope of Yennora and such. If they want a smaller

version not so close to the river. Fine but that scope is RIDICULOUS and anyone who thinks that this is alright they need to re-evaluate and listen. As Roy said to me take a ride down to Botany and then you will appreciate what I am talking about. No-one expected it to be of this magnitude.

and up against the river. But Sorry Bill but it seems that the Greater Greens party doesnt care about the Georges River. An environmental impact study needs to be first demanded by ... and then talk of an intermodal of such magnitude.

Now the Greens are up to their Knees! They supported the Intermodal Concept so they get to defend Liverpool from the Mega Monster! The Liberals and Labor Parties have sucked everyone in! The Council must be having kittens! Well it is time for all of those Residents whom have sat back to get behind the Greens and Independants to fight for their homes and the Safety of their Families!

Roy people have no understanding of it. Until they release that arial view will people totally understand and appreciate what will happen. But they wont till the last minute and the residents will find out about it and want to fight when its too late as with the freight line debarcle. They didnt know that they were getting a third line and they thought that naturally the govt would protect them from noise pollution. You talked to all the locals and they said of course the govt would place noise

barriers. Our govt cant leave us hanging. Well what a rude shock they got. That aerial view needs to be brought out in the open and pictures of Port Botany. I cant attack the residents because they are living in darkness but Council Mps are doing us and the greater Sydney an injustice

Meggarity said in last weeks newpaper ``I don't believe that the plans for the terminal have been made and the Federal Government would just be sitting on them,' she said. ``If the Government had already put together the plans they would be going ahead with the terminal, there would be no reason to hold off.' Obviously Albanese runs this country for no-one else seems to be informed. Ridiculous. Thats egg on ones face.

The concept of intermodals is not invalid. What is invalid is where the scope and placement cause damage to the environment and the health and amenity of residents. The mega-monster planned for Moorebank looks to be a huge threat in all of these things, and the Governments (both Federal and State) need to come clean with information and modeling. Surely a location well away from urban development and critical waterways makes far more sense.

Like where Bill? Where is there such an ideal location? I think the Mega Monster Intermodal Idea Stinks for Liverpool but I am just a resident. It is an IMPOSITION. Not subject to debate now so you have had plenty of time to object after all it was in their Federal election policy to establish the Moorebank Terminal as the MAJOR Intermodal. The Greens have been caught napping so now you will need to really do some campaign work to catch up!

Like where Bill? Where is there such an ideal location? I think the Mega Monster Intermodal Idea Stinks for Liverpool but I am just a resident. It is an IMPOSITION. Not subject to debate now so you have had plenty of time to object after all it was in their Federal election policy to establish the Moorebank Terminal as the MAJOR Intermodal. The Greens have been caught napping so now you will need to really do some campaign work to catch up!

Bill even a smaller scale at the top of WattleGrove going to Glenfield Tip as one of the Greens members pointed out. But on a river engulfing an entire estate. Wattlegrove has an L shape around them. Mind you they were conned into buying around there like I was conned into a river city concept. Apparently this was on the agenda even before I moved in. Yet my Govt as youve attested above sold me a river city. No mention of Intermodal this uncomprehensible size

And who are the independants???

You're correct Roy - it's not a secret that the Moorebank Intermodal was part of the ALP election platform, so nobody should be surprised it's going ahead - as soon as they were elected it was certain. What needs to happen, however, is that the scope, layout plans and impact modeling needs to be released for local residents to see BEFORE the form is a done deal. We want full disclosure, consultation and consensus to protect the interests of residents and the environment - that is not happening.

You're correct Roy - it's not a secret that the Moorebank Intermodal was part of the ALP election platform, so nobody should be surprised it's going ahead - as soon as they were elected it was certain. What needs to happen, however, is that the scope, layout plans and impact modeling needs to be released for local residents to see BEFORE the form is a done deal. We want full disclosure, consultation and consensus to protect the interests of residents and the environment - that is not happening.

You're correct Roy - it's not a secret that the Moorebank Intermodal was part of the ALP election platform, so nobody should be surprised it's going ahead - as soon as they were elected it was certain. What needs to happen, however, is that the scope, layout plans and impact modeling needs to be released for local residents to see BEFORE the form is a done deal. We want full disclosure, consultation and consensus to protect the interests of residents and the environment - that is not happening.

You're correct Roy - it's not a secret that the Moorebank Intermodal was part of the ALP election platform, so nobody should be surprised it's going ahead - as soon as they were elected it was certain. What needs to happen, however, is that the scope, layout plans and impact modeling needs to be released for local residents to see BEFORE the form is a done deal. We want full disclosure, consultation and consensus to protect the interests of residents and the environment - that is not happening.

Looks like Labor and Liberal have a duopoly in this country. We think they are different from each other. But they are one of the same. We need an enviromental impact study first and foremost Bill. I was told by Andrew if they were to expand the M5 they are required to to Enviro Impact Report. Why is that not the case here, first give us a report then talk of intermodal especially considering its on a river.

A person who I have known for a number of years and formerly worked at the Defence distibut advised me a couple of years ago that when they had received deliveries that they had fault with they would bury on the site.It seems that it would be impossible to determine the extent of material that is buried in various areas surely it would cause big problems in planning for any intermodal john 0409368603

On the Button John! The Remediation will cost a literal fortune just to make the areas useable for Civillians. Defence has a long history of allowing it's personnel to come in contact with Toxic Materials and many cases of exposure have been Documented. The Lands have been used for military purposes for nearly a century and no records of burials and spillages exist. Virtually any contaminant known can be found within the earth there. Right next to the Georges River close upstream of Liverpoool!

On the Button John! The Remediation will cost a literal fortune just to make the areas useable for Civillians. Defence has a long history of allowing it's personnel to come in contact with Toxic Materials and many cases of exposure have been Documented. The Lands have been used for military purposes for nearly a century and no records of burials and spillages exist. Virtually any contaminant known can be found within the earth there. Right next to the Georges River close upstream of Liverpoool!

I think Signe will never use the word frustration again:):) But what can we do it is the perfect word for how we feel here in Liverpool. Very Frustrated and feel that weve been on our own for so long and that govt just railroad us. So much secrecy and we find out through leaks. Unbelievable.

I think Signe will never use the word frustration again:):) But what can we do it is the perfect word for how we feel here in Liverpool. Very Frustrated and feel that weve been on our own for so long and that govt just railroad us. So much secrecy and we find out through leaks. Unbelievable.

Signe sorry for taking up your blog but I just realised Chris Hayes covers Campbelltown and Liverpool including Casula and Hoxton. Thats two different regional cities. Of course he is going to support this. Its for Campbelltown. This is sitting on two chairs. This is incredible and disturbing. We have no-one to represent us. Chris is sitting on too chairs and right now he is barracking for Campbelltown for there are more voters. I dont get how the govt can put the side of Liverpool in a Campbell

town Electorate. Hoxton Park Casula are all part of Campbelltown. Now it makes sense why Chris and Andrew would support it for its ALL for Campbelltown their electorate. I feel like I am Pallestine right at the moment and Campbelltown is Israel. Or Tibet and Campbelltown is China. Cant believe this. We live in Liverpool not Campbelltown. Hoxton Park is Liverpool not Campbelltown.

I imagine Chris Hayes feels somewhat confused also, if you read the various press, one minute he's being shoved to Campbelltown next Fowler...pretty sure he'd rather stay where he is (Werriwa), alas little fish don't get to swim with the big fish in Labor it seems....

It makes sense now why Chris would be supportive of the intermodal because his electorate covers Campbelltown. I cant go to my Mps on this issue. They are pro Campbelltown. The are allowed to sit on two chairs. Honestly I feel like Palestine. There is no-one to represent me. Im in Liverpool but I fall under Campbelltown hence lets barrack for an intermodal all for Campbelltown. Job creation for them as you heard Regional city for them and were Losers

Makes sense why Meggarity is not so for it for she is SOLEY Wattlegrove and Moorebank. Whereas I live in Liverpool but am represented by Campbelltown.

They are Politicians and as such do what they can but at the moment the Governments do not appear to be listening to our Reps anyway so it relly is a much of a muchnesswhether they like the idea or not. The Communities Opinion I think is very much more important right now and they need to be informed about the project. The Government Will not tell the community because they think it is better not to. So informing the Community falls to the Community we need a Leaflet Drop by Council I think!

RTA have on their website for the extension of the M5 written proposed intermodal. How is it then that after reading the Leader Maggerity keeps insisting nothing is coming out. I think she wants to keep it hush hush for it will cost votes in Hughes. Wattlegrove Moorebank needs to mobilise and say yes it will cost you votes. Didnt that area come close to being marginal??

Ok again in the papers. What are they afraid of that Wattlegrove Moorebank will protest. Of course they will.They will be stupid not to. And what your going to sign everything off before it gets out to Wattlegrove as you did with Casula. Weve all woken up. I understand the concept of intermodals but in mid suburbia of this magnitude its just ridiculous. Give it to Campbelltown their MPs are barracking for it. They need the population growth. People won't move to Moorebank they will just travel.

Please consider all the fact about the terminal before you Vote in any election. A site that provides useful information is: http://www.moorebankintermodal.com/

GOVERNMENT WASTES TAX PAYERS MONEY *AGAIN* The Huge Engineering costs for the Ramp to access the M5, Huge Costs for Sound Barriers (the RTA people at the consultation meeting at Moorebank recently estimated it costs roughly $25k to protect the average front of a house from noise), Huge costs to Decontaminate the Ex Military Land from Toxins such as Mercury (which Scientists say may cause Neurological Disorders such as Autism), the Waste to Subisdise the Intermodal even though its too close to Port Botany, the Extra Costs spent on Diesel for Trucks transporting goods more than necessary, Plus the Public Health Costs and Compensation Costs! The SSFL (Southern Sydney Freight Railway Line Under Construction) at Casula needs sound barriers on BOTH sides because if they are only eventually provided on the Casula side then the sound of the Freight Trains may be bounced over the river to areas like Wattle Grove, Anzac Village and Possibly Holsworthy. That would add of course to the Proposed Railyard Intermodal and M5 Widening Noise Pollution Deficit as the line is for 24/7 operations. The Georges River Environment could also be detrimentally affected by extra sound pollution so the need for Sound Barriers is required on the Eastern Side of the tracks as well as the Western Side.The destruction of the Georges River will also wipe out Tens of Millions of Dollars in Tourist Dollars spent each and every year! The Traffic Gridlock and Widespread Destruction of the Georges River will make Australia look like International Fools for its poor planning of Sydney. And the Government needs to find Billions more for more Important Infrasture such as the NBN, Hospitals, Schools, and probably a Future Stimulus Package for a continuing GFC that continues to affect us through the US/Europe! Moorebank is not just foolish Socially and Politically - it also makes No Sense Economically! The Badgerys Creek Airport site is the ideal location for this important infrastructure as it is not surrounded by Homes and Schools like Moorebank is. The Commonwealth owns the site and all lands required for support services are already in place. The M7 orbital road is in place waiting to distribute goods to Sydney and beyond. The options for rail line connections are there ready for extension to link the site to the southern, northern and western routes. The RTA is upgrading the Northern Road now and this project can be extended. The Rail track map of Sydney shows that a rail link can be achieved using parts of unused lines and connecting into the now commenced rail link to areas from Glenfield to South West release town centres such as Leppington

I cannot understand for one minute why the government (Federal and State) can think this intermodal is a good thing. People of Liverpool - YOU HAVE TO SPEAK OUT NOW - LOUD AND CONSTANTLY! You all agree that we don't want this. You have to turn up to rallys, protests, speak out - constantly.

For our Kids sake and our neighbours Kids sake we have to Stop these 2 Intermodals from Destroying our Community! Diesel Fumes = Asthma, Cancer and Shorter Life Spans

I keep hearing more and more about the health risks this intermodal will create. Do they think that saving money by putting the intermodal at Moorebank will be cheaper than the costs to the health care system down the track and law suits from locals. I DON'T THINK SO.

SYDNEY’S southwest will experience the highest growth of all the city’s regions by 2036, “The Sydney Towards 2036 population report” of the State Planning Department predicts. But with such dense population growth, how can they place the Moorebank Intermodal in the middle of it? Health, safety, noise, pollution, light spill, traffic - with 1 extra semitrailer movement every 30 seconds - sounds impossible doesn’t it? (see http://liverpool-leader.whereilive.com.a...

Gillard and Abbott this is a DISGRACE! Our peaceful community has been shocked by the announcement of the Government to push through this MASSIVE FREIGHT ZONE. The Consultants are telling us that it will happen regardless of the Damage caused. The background of some of these proposals is at http://www.moorebankintermodal.com We believe that the pollution will lead to the Destruction of Rare and Endangered Flora and Fauna on Commonwealth Heritage Listed Land. This land is also Aboriginal Land as can be seen at: http://www.environment.gov.au/soe/2001/p... Please see further information below: Citizens for Healthy Development (CHD) Website with list of Diesel Ingredients and their affects on People: http://www.citizensforhealthydevelopment... Information about the affect of Freight Intermodals on the people of the United States who have been suffering for a long time: www.TheImpactProject.org The following link has articles concerning diesel exhaust and/or traffic related air pollution. The particles in diesel exhaust consists primarily of fine and ultrafine particles. They can be downloaded from: http://www.yousendit.com/download/ZGJma3...

Im surprised you dont have grey hair, Common nolege that frastration begins in Liverpool

We'll have more than grey hair if this goes ahead. We'll have cancer, type 2 diabetes, children with lower IQ, sleep deprevation, etc, etc, etc. Will the government be able to afford all of us suing their butt's off when we sue them for our medical expenses from illnesses caused by this ridiculous plan.

ALL Residents and Media - come to the NO Moorebank Intermodals Protest this Saturday, the 5th February 2011 at Sydney Parliament House at 11am sharp! Let us know you are coming by emailing 7674np@gmail.com Take a Stand for our KIDS and Families HEALTH!

ALL Residents of Western Sydney - come to the Information night at Casula Community Center (39 Ingham Drive, Casula) this Wednesday 23 February at 7pm. Learn about the Damage that will be done to our KIDS and Families HEALTH!

Learn about this Freight Monster at the Residents Community awareness meeting at Moorebank community centre (Maddecks av. Moorebank), Wednesday 9 March at 7:00pm

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